Why are SNP so popular is Scotland?

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Harrie Lyons
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(Original post by SausageMan)
I'm voting SNP, in this general election. Inorder to recieve the powers that were promised during the referendum campaign. "Hate" is a very strong word, I would never contemplate on hating a person just because of where they came from and if I did it would be considered negative discrimination. (Also I support the freedom of movement, so if I did hate some one purely based on where they came from, then I would be rightly considered a hypocrite.)

Its more likely your confusing "hate", with our frustration of the Westminster political system and class. This stems from the 35 years we have voted for a labour government and most of the time, we recieve a Tory government we didn't vote for.

The SNP, are portraying themselves in this election as Scotland's voice. Who will put the needs of Scotland first. To me this seems like a good deal as my intrests will be fully represented in the House of Commons. So if it would make you feel better, I shall apologise for wanting Scotland to be yet more successful.

If what you mean by 'backwards' is more inclined to vote for a party on the left. Then yes, I do like parties that are on the left of the political spectrum. The SNP isn't a perfect political party, (they refused to give prisoners the vote as they were unsure how the public would react) so on some occasions I support policies from the Scottish Greens. Such as there policy of a £10 minimum wage, I feel this is a good policy because if lower earners have more wealth they will be more inclined to spend which could renergies our economy. There by creating growth.

Your misdirecting your frustration, as to devolution. As I campaigned for full independence, inorder to make our own decisions to create our own destiny. It was the unionist parties who promised more powers, the SNP are just holding them to their words.
Three things a) the very complaint 'we didn't get the government we voted for' shows that in fact we are not one nation, people from Cornwall didnt complain because they never got the Liberal government they voted for, if we are one country of which Scotland is just a small part then there should be no room for this feeling that you are not getting democracy because a minority of people in a country (5 million) does not dictate to the majority (60 million) their government.

b)I find it complete dishonest of the SNP to run in the general election and then to vote in the British parlement, an institution the are committed to leaving and to help decide Biritsh policies, a county they want to dismantle, Sinn Fein has far more ethics in not attending parliament as an independence movement.

c) the SNP's form of democracy seems to be 'we will accept the will of the people if they vote for us' another independence campaign and referendum should be declared illegal by her majesty's government for another generation
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(Original post by PowelliteScum :))
Equal.. but separate. Hmmm

I think you need to learn the definition of hypocrisy. Saying that Scotland is a parasite to the UK does not mean I hate the Scottish. Learn to distinguish between a critique and discrimination.

You do hate the English. You have just said the UK does not have a "progressive, tolerant and equal society" which is why you voted to leave.
Don't try to pull wool over my eyes.

Scotland is left wing, because as all left wing people, they like to claim other peoples money and property. Hence the term "parasite".
"they"

Not all Scottish people are left wing.

Why don't you visit Edinburgh, and you will see how supposedly "left wing" we are.
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(Original post by PowelliteScum :))
What that they live off the English taxpayer? They take more than they give. The English have to spend money and invest in Scotland, as well as pay for a proportion of their benefits since they can't pay it for themselves. Their entire economy relies on the oil fields.

They are nationalist and socialist, but nobody has the balls to call them nationalist socialists.
England takes more than it gives.

For two years in the last 30 the WEngland has had a lower deficit than Scotland.

For 28 of the last 30 years England has been in a better economic position due to Scotland.
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(Original post by PowelliteScum :))
Are the SNP civic nationalists? Are they pretty much socialists?
Civic nationalists yes, more socialist than our 3 main parties, certainly. But I'll ask again, were you deliberately comparing them to the Nazis?
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(Original post by SausageMan)
Fair point. There's the statics, for those interested.
[TD="width: 70, align: center"]45.4%[/TD]
[TD="width: 70, align: center"]31.7%
Right. 54.6% of the Scots voted for a party other than the SNP.

I expect many of those people will tactically vote Labour in May to show up the SNP for their arrogance and presumptuousness
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(Original post by Quady)
What proportion do and how does it compare with elsewhere?
According to the treasury if Scotland became independent 13% more tax would be needed to maintain independent Scotland public services. This suggests that the English are already subsidising Scottish public services.
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(Original post by King Hotpie)
Civic nationalists yes, more socialist than our 3 main parties, certainly. But I'll ask again, were you deliberately comparing them to the Nazis?
I wasn't. I was calling the nationalist socialists. Which they are.
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(Original post by PowelliteScum :))
Perhaps the Scottish should be a little open minded and see the benefits of the Tories. Maybe Scottish people should work for themselves, rather than trying to claim other peoples money which is basically the point of the SNP/ Labour.
"Scottish people should work for themselves"

The majority of Scottish people do work for themselves.
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Right. 54.6% of the Scots voted for a party other than the SNP.

I expect many of those people will tactically vote Labour in May to show up the SNP for their arrogance and presumptuousness
I tried to copy and paste. But it wasn't working. Ha
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England takes more than it gives.

For two years in the last 30 the WEngland has had a lower deficit than Scotland.

For 28 of the last 30 years England has been in a better economic position due to Scotland.
Absolute nonsense. The English subsidise Scottish public services because the Scots are too lazy to pay for it themselves and take our money. More to the point, our economic productivity is higher and England makes more and exports more than Scotland.

Don't lie.
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(Original post by PowelliteScum :))
I wasn't. I was calling the nationalist socialists. Which they are.
Well that's a relief. "National socialists" very often refers to the nazi party though, which I'm almost certain you were very much aware of when you said it. Socialists, who happen to be nationalists, might be a better way to put it
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(Original post by EatAndRevise)
That is utter nonsense. The Scottish do not hate the English, of course there are some Scottish people who hate English people, but there are also some English people that hate Scottish people. In addition, your crap about Scotland being "a backwards nation" is drivel. Everything you have ranted about is nonsense.
Anybody who votes SNP does so because they hate the English. There is no getting round it.


Scotland would be a 3rd rate nation if it wasn't for the union. It would be poor with little to it other than fishing and oil, which eventually would dry out.
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Well that's a relief. "National socialists" very often refers to the nazi party though, which I'm almost certain you were very much aware of when you said it. Socialists, who happen to be nationalists, might be a better way to put it
Nationalist Socialists. Lets not use long winded terms out of your fear of being a Nazi.
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(Original post by PowelliteScum :))
Don't be deliberately stupid.
I'll concede that answering your posts is hardly the greatest use of my intellect, but the juxtaposition just makes said intellect look positively :sexface: in comparison.
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(Original post by PowelliteScum :))
According to the treasury if Scotland became independent 13% more tax would be needed to maintain independent Scotland public services. This suggests that the English are already subsidising Scottish public services.
Yes, they did last year. (and England needs 6% more tax to maintain public services)

Bit of an anomoly over the last 30 years, 28 of thenm have had Scotland with a lower deficit.
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(Original post by EatAndRevise)
"they"

Not all Scottish people are left wing.

Why don't you visit Edinburgh, and you will see how supposedly "left wing" we are.
I have much better things to do than go to a place where I would be discriminated against because I am English. Thank you, but no thanks.
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Anybody who votes SNP does so because they hate the English. There is no getting round it.


Scotland would be a 3rd rate nation if it wasn't for the union. It would be poor with little to it other than fishing and oil, which eventually would dry out.
I would not vote for SNP, but your reasoning is still completely illogical.

How did you come to the absurd conclusion that "anybody who votes SNP does so because they hate the English"?
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Anybody who votes SNP does so because they hate the English. There is no getting round it.


Scotland would be a 3rd rate nation if it wasn't for the union. It would be poor with little to it other than fishing and oil, which eventually would dry out.
So I'm voting SNP because I hate English people? So I do it because I hate myself...?

And whisky and tourism. And England would have a worse current account deficit because of it.
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Yes, they did last year. (and England needs 6% more tax to maintain public services)

Bit of an anomoly over the last 30 years, 28 of thenm have had Scotland with a lower deficit.
Well if the Scottish feel that they are better off out the union, they should leave. They decided not. However, I cannot accept that they don't want to be independent, but want devolution and are willing to scrounge off the English when it suites them. They either contribute, or they leave.
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(Original post by Quady)
So I'm voting SNP because I hate English people? So I do it because I hate myself...?

And whisky and tourism. And England would have a worse current account deficit because of it.
Possibly. Anybody who votes Green basically hates themselves, so it wouldn't be the first time.

Hahahe, okay you are going to base your entire export economy on whisky and fish, and using oil for your energy and maybe letting the odd tourist visit Edinburgh castle. Yes, I can see Scotland being a very successful country.
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