Daughter of Somali immigrants accepted into all 8 Ivy League schools

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Not to knock her achievement, but the elephant in the room here is the extent to which affirmative action played a part, something which these schools are infamous for.

The same goes for Harold Ekeh, a Nigerian immigrant who has also been accepted by all eight Ivies, and Kwasi Enin the year before, the son of Ghanaian immigrants.

There are currently a few lawsuits agains US universities against their affirmative action practices, as there seems to be a large systematic discrepancy in admissions standards between white American students and minorities, which would be deemed outrageous here in the UK.

"The lawsuit cites a 2009 study by Princeton sociologists that concluded that while the average Asian American applicant needed a much higher 1460 SAT score to be admitted, a white student with similar GPA and other qualifications only needed a score of 1320, while blacks needed 1010 and Hispanics 1190."

You're making a fair point here and there is no denying that affirmative actions played a role here but these schools surely wouldn't excuse and give a pass to these minority students to dodge discrimination accusations otherwise, they receive too many applications they're simply too big and at the end of the day it's a business they want the best of the best they can get so although I do agree their ethnic background, financial status etc. puts them in favour in their system, it can't overrun their achievement in the first place and I know that's also what you meant.

What exactly do you mean by "excuse and give a pass"? It's pretty clear that they don't simply accept the best applicants, but rather give significant boosts to minorities to promote 'diversity' and a progressive appearance. This is the basis of the lawsuit, along with discrimination against asian and international applicants.

What this means is that these minority students who have been accepted by all eight Ivy league schools may well have failed to receive asingle offer from any of the top universities had it not been for affirmative action. Just look at the countless rejection stories of white and asian students with far higher SAT scores and significantly more impressive extra-curriculars, awards etc.

As for your point about them being a business, that doesn't imply that they would want to take only the best students. They want to promote their brand and the image of a diverse campus environment, which in this case isn't achieved through meritocratic admissions.

What exactly do you mean by "excuse and give a pass"? It's pretty clear that they don't simply accept the best applicants, but rather give significant boosts to minorities to promote 'diversity' and a progressive appearance. This is the basis of the lawsuit, along with discrimination against asian and international applicants.

What this means is that these minority students who have been accepted by all eight Ivy league schools may well have failed to receive asingle offer from any of the top universities had it not been for affirmative action. Just look at the countless rejection stories of white and asian students with far higher SAT scores and significantly more impressive extra-curriculars, awards etc.

As for your point about them being a business, that doesn't imply that they would want to take only the best students. They want to promote their brand and the image of a diverse campus environment, which in this case isn't achieved through meritocratic admissions.

okay... I'm done

No but she's right, okay, kind of right. She's right about affirmative action being dodgy in a way. While she's wrong in assuming that that Somali student would have been rejected.

Yeah I know she was right on the affirmative action part which I gave her credit for and said that I agreed but it was when she made herself transparent by saying that those students wouldn't get in if it wasn't for the current academic admission system, that's what I mean with ''I'm done''. And someone that influenced me greatly while growing up and still does is an Iraqi architect, Zaha Hadid I love her work she's amazing so.. shoutout to Iraq! ahaha

may well have failed to receive a single offer

she made herself transparent by saying that those students wouldn't get in if it wasn't for the current academic admission system

she's wrong in assuming that that Somali student would have been rejected.

Was the lawsuit successful?