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(Original post by The_Mighty_Bush)
My Old Man's a Provo. - That one even has it in the title
My Old Man's a Provo. - That one even has it in the title
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No, it wasn't.
I hate Celtic because they support IRA terrorism and because I'm a Rangers fan and that's what rivals do. They are also massive hypocrites.
You aren't the most successful Scottish team. Rangers have won more top division titles.
No, it wasn't.
I hate Celtic because they support IRA terrorism and because I'm a Rangers fan and that's what rivals do. They are also massive hypocrites.
You aren't the most successful Scottish team. Rangers have won more top division titles.
Rangers were, but since they don't exist anymore its a bit irrelavent.
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To the OP the only people who hate Celtic are 'Rangers' fans.
The SPL sucks though. League 2 and juniors are where its at.
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(Original post by samba)
Which club was it with the potato famine and **** off back to ireland chants?
Which club was it with the potato famine and **** off back to ireland chants?
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(Original post by Quady)
Think youll go up this year?
Rangers were, but since they don't exist anymore its a bit irrelavent.
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To the OP the only people who hate Celtic are 'Rangers' fans.
The SPL sucks though. League 2 and juniors are where its at.
Think youll go up this year?
Rangers were, but since they don't exist anymore its a bit irrelavent.
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To the OP the only people who hate Celtic are 'Rangers' fans.
The SPL sucks though. League 2 and juniors are where its at.
We still have the same honours and history though so it that sense it is very relevant.
The only people who hate Celtic are Rangers fans? Really? So no non-old firm supporters hate Celtic for the things they do and they stuff they sing?
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(Original post by M67)
I'm an English Celtic fan. I can understand other fans in Scotland hating Celtic as we are the most successful and widely supported Scottish team, the same way most fans in England hate Man United and most fans in Germany hate Bayern Munich etc. However I've always wondered why so many English fans hate Celtic so much.
Most of them do so because they say Celtic fans support the IRA. This is true, but I don't really see a problem with supporting an organisation which fought for Irish independence from Britain. There are no songs sung by Celtic fans on a matchday which glorify or even mention the PIRA.
Celtic fans do not engage in any sectarian singing; there are no songs sung by Celtic fans which carry slurs against Protestants. The same, however, can't be said about the fans of deidco, formerly known as R*ngers (RIP) who openly sing sectarian songs about Catholics. Yet these fans and that club, for some reason, are much adored by a lot of English supporters. There is so much more that could be said about our dearly departed neighbours, but I'll try and stay on topic.
We also seemed to be hated for our refusal to wear the poppy. In a match vs Aberdeen the Green Brigade ultras group held up banners which read 'Your deeds would shame all the devils in hell. Ireland Iraq Afghanistan. No bloodstained poppy on our hoops'. This was met with complete outrage at the time. Many Scottish Celtic fans originate from Ireland and indeed many Irish fans are season ticket holders at Celtic Park and take the ferry from Ireland for every game. So why does anyone expect them to welcome a symbol of the British army, who occupied and oppressed Ireland and the Irish people for centuries, at Celtic Park and on the Celtic jersey? If one was to give an American flag to an Iraqi boy, who's country has been invaded and destroyed by Americans, he wouldn't exactly embrace the flag. So what's the difference here? The resistance to wearing the poppy by the Celtic support is completely justified imo.
So why do so many people hate Celtic? To me it seems like the cool thing to do. Many people don't even bother looking at the history of Celtic and the history of Ireland and just jump on the bandwagon of hating Celtic and liking R*ngers, because it seems like the norm amongst English fans when it comes to the Old Firm.
I'm an English Celtic fan. I can understand other fans in Scotland hating Celtic as we are the most successful and widely supported Scottish team, the same way most fans in England hate Man United and most fans in Germany hate Bayern Munich etc. However I've always wondered why so many English fans hate Celtic so much.
Most of them do so because they say Celtic fans support the IRA. This is true, but I don't really see a problem with supporting an organisation which fought for Irish independence from Britain. There are no songs sung by Celtic fans on a matchday which glorify or even mention the PIRA.
Celtic fans do not engage in any sectarian singing; there are no songs sung by Celtic fans which carry slurs against Protestants. The same, however, can't be said about the fans of deidco, formerly known as R*ngers (RIP) who openly sing sectarian songs about Catholics. Yet these fans and that club, for some reason, are much adored by a lot of English supporters. There is so much more that could be said about our dearly departed neighbours, but I'll try and stay on topic.
We also seemed to be hated for our refusal to wear the poppy. In a match vs Aberdeen the Green Brigade ultras group held up banners which read 'Your deeds would shame all the devils in hell. Ireland Iraq Afghanistan. No bloodstained poppy on our hoops'. This was met with complete outrage at the time. Many Scottish Celtic fans originate from Ireland and indeed many Irish fans are season ticket holders at Celtic Park and take the ferry from Ireland for every game. So why does anyone expect them to welcome a symbol of the British army, who occupied and oppressed Ireland and the Irish people for centuries, at Celtic Park and on the Celtic jersey? If one was to give an American flag to an Iraqi boy, who's country has been invaded and destroyed by Americans, he wouldn't exactly embrace the flag. So what's the difference here? The resistance to wearing the poppy by the Celtic support is completely justified imo.
So why do so many people hate Celtic? To me it seems like the cool thing to do. Many people don't even bother looking at the history of Celtic and the history of Ireland and just jump on the bandwagon of hating Celtic and liking R*ngers, because it seems like the norm amongst English fans when it comes to the Old Firm.
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(Original post by samba)
Which club was it with the potato famine and **** off back to ireland chants?
Which club was it with the potato famine and **** off back to ireland chants?
The intellect of football fans at times
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(Original post by Zürich)
Especially ludicrous since a very large proportion of Rangers fans singing these are Northern Ireland unionists who have ancestors who surely suffered in that famine, and since they're also from Ireland.
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Especially ludicrous since a very large proportion of Rangers fans singing these are Northern Ireland unionists who have ancestors who surely suffered in that famine, and since they're also from Ireland.
The intellect of football fans at times
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(Original post by samba)
When researching this an hour ago I found out that your man cruyff is so philo-semitic that he had the club serve kosher food before matches and the whole team were like jew but not
When researching this an hour ago I found out that your man cruyff is so philo-semitic that he had the club serve kosher food before matches and the whole team were like jew but not
Hard to get Dutch people to avoid sausages for too long so just proves again his charisma
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(Original post by Zürich)
how odd, never heard of that before. Ajax are historically seen as having some Jewish roots, although like 0.5% of fans these days are, so maybe he was just trying to forge some kind of collective identity.
Hard to get Dutch people to avoid sausages for too long so just proves again his charisma
how odd, never heard of that before. Ajax are historically seen as having some Jewish roots, although like 0.5% of fans these days are, so maybe he was just trying to forge some kind of collective identity.
Hard to get Dutch people to avoid sausages for too long so just proves again his charisma
Cruyff himself was so philo-Semitic that, as Franklin Foer tells us in his essential “How Soccer Explains the World,” “his club’s strange pre-game rituals included the delivery of a kosher salami, and locker-room banter self-consciously peppered with Yiddish phrases.” The Ajax trainer said that “the players liked to be Jewish, even though they weren’t.” It should come as no surprise that Johan Cruyff’s son Jordi is now the general manager of Maccabi Tel Aviv.
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(Original post by samba)
Fair enough. Should double check info before I post it. Thanks for that.
It makes perfect sense too. Protestants in Ireland are pro Israel and Catholics are pro Palestinian.
Fair enough. Should double check info before I post it. Thanks for that.
It makes perfect sense too. Protestants in Ireland are pro Israel and Catholics are pro Palestinian.
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Take away all the politics and religion and people would still hate Celtic, and Rangers for that matter, because they are/were habitual winners.
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Didn't realise anyone cared about the Old Firm anymore? The standard of the SPL isn't too far off park football.
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Didn't realise anyone cared about the Old Firm anymore? The standard of the SPL isn't too far off park football.
Didn't realise anyone cared about the Old Firm anymore? The standard of the SPL isn't too far off park football.
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I don't know about your British resentments but I'm Polish and they've got some bad press after that crap with Legia.
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I don't know about your British resentments but I'm Polish and they've got some bad press after that crap with Legia.
I don't know about your British resentments but I'm Polish and they've got some bad press after that crap with Legia.
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(Original post by Zürich)
Celtic would finish midtable in the PL with their current squad, and with PL revenues would be Europa League qualifying easily tbf
Celtic would finish midtable in the PL with their current squad, and with PL revenues would be Europa League qualifying easily tbf
Their current squad wouldn't get out of the Championship never mind stay up in the PL.
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(Original post by M67)
Most of them do so because they say Celtic fans support the IRA. This is true, but I don't really see a problem with supporting an organisation which fought for Irish independence from Britain.
Most of them do so because they say Celtic fans support the IRA. This is true, but I don't really see a problem with supporting an organisation which fought for Irish independence from Britain.
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The people they support murdered hundreds of British people in Northern Ireland and mainland Britain in a terrorist campaign that lasted a period of around twenty years. In up to date terms it would be like supporting ISIS supporters that target British soldiers in Britain.
The people they support murdered hundreds of British people in Northern Ireland and mainland Britain in a terrorist campaign that lasted a period of around twenty years. In up to date terms it would be like supporting ISIS supporters that target British soldiers in Britain.
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