Why are Celtic hated so much?

I'm an English Celtic fan. I can understand other fans in Scotland hating Celtic as we are the most successful and widely supported Scottish team, the same way most fans in England hate Man United and most fans in Germany hate Bayern Munich etc. However I've always wondered why so many English fans hate Celtic so much.

Most of them do so because they say Celtic fans support the IRA. This is true, but I don't really see a problem with supporting an organisation which fought for Irish independence from Britain. There are no songs sung by Celtic fans on a matchday which glorify or even mention the PIRA.

Celtic fans do not engage in any sectarian singing; there are no songs sung by Celtic fans which carry slurs against Protestants. The same, however, can't be said about the fans of deidco, formerly known as R*ngers (RIP) who openly sing sectarian songs about Catholics. Yet these fans and that club, for some reason, are much adored by a lot of English supporters. There is so much more that could be said about our dearly departed neighbours, but I'll try and stay on topic.

We also seemed to be hated for our refusal to wear the poppy. In a match vs Aberdeen the Green Brigade ultras group held up banners which read 'Your deeds would shame all the devils in hell. Ireland Iraq Afghanistan. No bloodstained poppy on our hoops'. This was met with complete outrage at the time. Many Scottish Celtic fans originate from Ireland and indeed many Irish fans are season ticket holders at Celtic Park and take the ferry from Ireland for every game. So why does anyone expect them to welcome a symbol of the British army, who occupied and oppressed Ireland and the Irish people for centuries, at Celtic Park and on the Celtic jersey? If one was to give an American flag to an Iraqi boy, who's country has been invaded and destroyed by Americans, he wouldn't exactly embrace the flag. So what's the difference here? The resistance to wearing the poppy by the Celtic support is completely justified imo.

So why do so many people hate Celtic? To me it seems like the cool thing to do. Many people don't even bother looking at the history of Celtic and the history of Ireland and just jump on the bandwagon of hating Celtic and liking R*ngers, because it seems like the norm amongst English fans when it comes to the Old Firm.

Reply 40

Viridiana

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Original post by ClockEnderAFC

That Legia story was hilarious. They brought on a suspended player, did they just expect to get let off unpunished? I agree that getting disqualified from the competition was harsh as it was obviously an honest mistake, they were 6-1 up on aggregate with a couple of minutes to go. It's not as if it had a massive effect on the tie. Still though, they ****ked up themselves and then tried to blame Celtic and UEFA, comical stuff.

Yeah, it was a really dumb mistake on the part of Legia, but there was a nearly identical case a few years ago and the club involved went unpunished - in this case though it seemed like someone wanted Celtic to enter the next stage because, well, they'll probably generate more income to the sponsors etc... Dumb of Legia though, yeah.

Reply 41

scotttb

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Original post by Viridiana

Yeah, it was a really dumb mistake on the part of Legia, but there was a nearly identical case a few years ago and the club involved went unpunished - in this case though it seemed like someone wanted Celtic to enter the next stage because, well, they'll probably generate more income to the sponsors etc... Dumb of Legia though, yeah.

You got a source?

Reply 42

Viridiana

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Original post by scotttb

You got a source?

http://transfery.info/68763,o-kazusie-debreczyna-w-kontekscie-legii
Some parts are in English I think, you can try to Google Translate the rest.
I'm not going to argue etc. though, it's just something I've seen on the Internet.

Reply 43

ZÃ¼rich

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Original post by Viridiana

I don't know about your British resentments but I'm Polish and they've got some bad press after that crap with Legia.

Ludicrous to blame Celtic for Uefa's decision.

Reflected poorly on Legia to do so.

Reply 44

ClockEnderAFC

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Original post by Viridiana

Yeah, it was a really dumb mistake on the part of Legia, but there was a nearly identical case a few years ago and the club involved went unpunished - in this case though it seemed like someone wanted Celtic to enter the next stage because, well, they'll probably generate more income to the sponsors etc... Dumb of Legia though, yeah.

It's silly to suggest that there was some conspiracy involving UEFA and Celtic, considering Celtic's disciplinary record in Europe. They've been fined numerous times for pyro, political banners and anti UEFA banners. Celtic fans are as anti-UEFA as Legia.

Reply 45

AdamCee

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I hate Celtic.

I also hate Rangers.

But, the hate is much stronger for Rangers

Reply 46

AdamCee

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Original post by sr90

I'm not disputing that at all. Rangers would as well.

Their current squad wouldn't get out of the Championship never mind stay up in the PL.

Not sure if you're saying Rangers wouldn't get out of the Championship or if Rangers would do well in PL (not 100% sure what you meant)

If you meant Rangers would do well in PL.... They're fighting for promotion from the Scottish Championship, and got hammered 3-0 by QOTS the other day.. That would be questionable :P

Reply 47

TornadoGR4

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I don't particularly care for Celtic at all. They can stay in their poverty pub league winning everything. I'd rather watch the 9th tier of English football than the SPL.

Reply 48

rockrunride

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Original post by TornadoGR4

I don't particularly care for Celtic at all. They can stay in their poverty pub league winning everything. I'd rather watch the 9th tier of English football than the SPL.

Amen. The one thing Scottish football's got going for it is team names.

Find it particularly cringeworthy when Celtic or whoever draw an English team in the CL and Sky/ITV dub it 'The Battle of Britain'. If I had been around in 1940 I'd find the use of that term downright insulting.

Reply 49

Good bloke

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Original post by Onde

In regards the poppy: it was first used to remember dead soldiers in the United States, so seeing it as a British symbol is rather peculiar.

The first time the British, Canadians, Australians and Kiwis used poppies (imported from France) was in 1921, and the poppy factory in Richmond was established in 1922. The first US national use of poppies was on Memorial Day was in 1924.

It was adopted because the particularly wet northern end of the western front grew lots of poppies as a consequence of the churning it received (poppies tend to grow more profusely in disturbed earth), so it is entirely appropriate that the Commonwealth nations (and USA) use it.

Reply 50

Zander01

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Original post by M67

Celtic fans do not engage in any sectarian singing; there are no songs sung by Celtic fans which carry slurs against Protestants. The same, however, can't be said about the fans of deidco, formerly known as R*ngers (RIP) who openly sing sectarian songs about Catholics. .

What complete and utter nonsense.

Both as bad as each other.

Reply 51

ClockEnderAFC

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Original post by Zander01

What complete and utter nonsense.

Both as bad as each other.

Find me a sectarian song sung by Celtic fans. There are plenty sung by Rangers fans which I can name.

Reply 52

Zander01

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Original post by ClockEnderAFC

Find me a sectarian song sung by Celtic fans. There are plenty sung by Rangers fans which I can name.

Never heard of Roamin in the Gloamin nah?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DyDDpYpnZg

I never denied that Rangers fans sing sectarian songs. They are scum as well.

In fact here's a better version:

[video="youtube;7a7_8fgkDbw"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a7_8fgkDbw[/video]

You were saying?

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 53

ClockEnderAFC

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Original post by Zander01

Never heard of Roamin in the Gloamin nah?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DyDDpYpnZg

I never denied that Rangers fans sing sectarian songs. They are scum as well.

In fact here's a better version:

[video="youtube;7a7_8fgkDbw"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a7_8fgkDbw[/video]

You were saying?

Yes I have heard of Roamin in the Gloamin. I asked for sectarian songs sung by Celtic fans. Roamin in the Gloamin very rarely, if ever gets sung. That video was 7 years ago, since the Green Brigade have started to have a greater influence over the wider Celtic support sectarian chanting at Celtic Park and at away games doesn't happen.

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 54

samkim

nope, nowadays it's .. Smelly

Reply 55

The_Mighty_Bush

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They are smelly hobos. That's why.

Reply 56

ZÃ¼rich

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i am english and Dutch
no irish blood

will always back Celtic

Reply 57

the_brunton_bear

To our friend who has never heard sectarian songs at Celtic.Would it be possible for you to explain roll of honour? Maybe you could explain the Bobby Sands banner when the support compared him to William Wallace......or maybe you wont

Reply 58

RG.

Because big jock knew

Reply 59

do0v

First of all Rangers are the most successful football club on the planet, never mind Scotland.
Secondly Celtic fans are absolutely vile, always singing songs glorifying a terrorist organisation responsible for many innocent deaths and singing through minutes silences for the people who died for the country they are living in(and in most cases come from)
Unless you were brought up one of them or have it in your heritage I highly doubt you've been to Parkhead, you would never go back to that dump.

Why are Celtic hated so much?

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