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Why are Celtic hated so much?

I'm an English Celtic fan. I can understand other fans in Scotland hating Celtic as we are the most successful and widely supported Scottish team, the same way most fans in England hate Man United and most fans in Germany hate Bayern Munich etc. However I've always wondered why so many English fans hate Celtic so much.

Most of them do so because they say Celtic fans support the IRA. This is true, but I don't really see a problem with supporting an organisation which fought for Irish independence from Britain. There are no songs sung by Celtic fans on a matchday which glorify or even mention the PIRA.

Celtic fans do not engage in any sectarian singing; there are no songs sung by Celtic fans which carry slurs against Protestants. The same, however, can't be said about the fans of deidco, formerly known as R*ngers (RIP) who openly sing sectarian songs about Catholics. Yet these fans and that club, for some reason, are much adored by a lot of English supporters. There is so much more that could be said about our dearly departed neighbours, but I'll try and stay on topic.

We also seemed to be hated for our refusal to wear the poppy. In a match vs Aberdeen the Green Brigade ultras group held up banners which read 'Your deeds would shame all the devils in hell. Ireland Iraq Afghanistan. No bloodstained poppy on our hoops'. This was met with complete outrage at the time. Many Scottish Celtic fans originate from Ireland and indeed many Irish fans are season ticket holders at Celtic Park and take the ferry from Ireland for every game. So why does anyone expect them to welcome a symbol of the British army, who occupied and oppressed Ireland and the Irish people for centuries, at Celtic Park and on the Celtic jersey? If one was to give an American flag to an Iraqi boy, who's country has been invaded and destroyed by Americans, he wouldn't exactly embrace the flag. So what's the difference here? The resistance to wearing the poppy by the Celtic support is completely justified imo.

So why do so many people hate Celtic? To me it seems like the cool thing to do. Many people don't even bother looking at the history of Celtic and the history of Ireland and just jump on the bandwagon of hating Celtic and liking R*ngers, because it seems like the norm amongst English fans when it comes to the Old Firm.

Reply 80

M67

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Original post by The_Mighty_Bush

Neither do our fans about Catholics. Your fans sing pro IRA terrorist songs, interrupting remembrance silences with IRA songs and booing, chuck bananas at black players and even stink so much your club had to send your fans letters telling them to have a shower.

Whaaaat? The Billy Boys is sung regularly by your fans. At the semi final in February 80% of your end could have been arrested.

We had 1 fan who had bad personal hygiene. Enough to give numerous zombies an Internet hard on apparently.

The Mark Walters incident was 30 years ago. The Celtic fanbase of today is very antiracist and antifascist. Sevco fans, on the other hand, spray white power and BNP graffiti outside ibrox today in 2015.

A group who fought for Irish independence from Britain are not terrorists. The loyalist paramilitaries who Rangers fans adore are though.

Reply 81

The_Mighty_Bush

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Original post by M67

Whaaaat? The Billy Boys is sung regularly by your fans. At the semi final in February 80% of your end could have been arrested.

"Fenian" means Irish republican terrorist. Not Catholic. Most fenians nowadays aren't even Catholics but Marxists.

Original post by M67

A group who fought for Irish independence from Britain are not terrorists. The loyalist paramilitaries who Rangers fans adore are though.

I'll agree to disagree on that point. Doubt we could come to any agreement on that anyway.

Reply 82

M67

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Original post by The_Mighty_Bush

"Fenian" means Irish republican terrorist. Not Catholic. Most fenians nowadays aren't even Catholics but Marxists.

I'll agree to disagree on that point. Doubt we could come to any agreement on that anyway.

I don't think a Rangers fan and a Celtic fan could come to any sort of agreement on anything tbh. Apart from issues regarding the OBFA maybe.

That letter about fans being advised to wash is probably the funniest football related news article I have ever seen. I honestly can't think of a funnier one.

Reply 85

James galston

Ignorant. Glasgow rangers have had jews and roman catholic players.
Your team is hated as it allows thier supporters to sing and display banners gloryfying the murders of british citizens.
Cant blame any british citizen for disliking a club that has this as part of thier history.
At many games you will also see many anti semetic banners being displayed.
The last time i looked at a map of britain, scotland was still part of that.
Oh aye thats right your team and supporters dont class themselves as british or even scottish. Its the old we are irish pish.

Reply 86

James galston

Original post by M67

Whaaaat? The Billy Boys is sung regularly by your fans. At the semi final in February 80% of your end could have been arrested.

We had 1 fan who had bad personal hygiene. Enough to give numerous zombies an Internet hard on apparently.

The Mark Walters incident was 30 years ago. The Celtic fanbase of today is very antiracist and antifascist. Sevco fans, on the other hand, spray white power and BNP graffiti outside ibrox today in 2015.

A group who fought for Irish independence from Britain are not terrorists. The loyalist paramilitaries who Rangers fans adore are though.

Independence from britain.
For the love of christ you stay in britain ya halfwit

Reply 87

James galston

Original post by James galston

Independence from britain.
For the love of christ you stay in britain ya halfwit

Reply 88

Scotsguardsman

You are a ignorant of the facts and should stay silent on things you don't know about,as a Celtic fan with 12 years in the British army behind me (3 tours in Ulster in the 70,80s) I feel insulted by your comments,most Celtic fans are Scottish and have no sympathy for Irish or any other form of terrorism that's going on in the world these days, we support the club not the bigotry that some bring to it.Have a guess about these greats ...Stein, Simpson, Big Tommy,Dalglish,Larsson,and countless others, not catholic by any means but who cares, great Celts, that is the difference between us and Rangers.

Reply 89

Wbjk1873

No we hate you because you are anti British ira supporting scum. As for support get real Rangers took 180.000 to Manchester and we don't need to play the Irish republican card shut to bolster our support. We just hate you because you exist and our management have never had to send letters telling us we are smelly bastards.no surrender.

Reply 90

Wbjk1873

Original post by samba

Rangers was built on racism, no protestants, jews, whatever. Celtic all the way.

Avi Chen,Lorenzo amoroso, don kitchen rand,Sergio poring etcetcetc and many more.ignorant Tim brainless

Reply 91

Wbjk1873

Original post by Wbjk1873

Avi Chen,Lorenzo amoroso, don kitchen rand,Sergio poring etcetcetc and many more.ignorant Tim brainless

Bloody website twist spelling. Sergio porrini amoruso,kitchenbrand,avi Cohen.

Reply 92

Wbjk1873

Original post by samba

Rangers was built on racism, no protestants, jews, whatever. Celtic all the way.

Know nothing idiot.

Reply 93

Wbjk1873

Original post by samba

Ahh, got it the wrong way around. Still, not letting catholics or jews etc play because of their religion is beyond ****ty. Didn't they hate the Irish and Italians too?

Lacking intelligence.catholics,Jews Italians,South Americans, tons of Catholics have played for rangers in the last 25 years.if you don't know what your talking about keep your stupid mouth shut.

Reply 94

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Original post by Wbjk1873

No we hate you because you are anti British ira supporting scum. As for support get real Rangers took 180.000 to Manchester and we don't need to play the Irish republican card shut to bolster our support. We just hate you because you exist and our management have never had to send letters telling us we are smelly bastards.no surrender.

Manchester....

(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 95

Wbjk1873

Original post by Stalin

Manchester....

septic scum are as bad. We were talking numbers not what happened 180.000 what other club anywhere could generate these numbers. Besides what happened we didn't bomb any British cities or glorify those who do. Remember a very large explosion in Manchester did a lot more damage than this. We are British loyalists NOT British hating scum.

Reply 96

Wbjk1873

Original post by ClockEnderAFC

Find me one song sung by Celtic fans which even mentions the provos. I can find you plenty sung by your fans full of sectarian bile.

what about the songs they sing about the Armagh bombing? Plenty more.ira songs every week.the boys of the old brigade for one. This is supporting scum who regularly bombed England. Get real they don't like Britain and that means YOU English.

Reply 97

Wbjk1873

It's septic followed by scum.

Original post by StrangeBanana

Cheers, always wondered about that

Reply 98

Wearethepeople54

Peso club should have been stripped of all titles

Reply 99

Wearethepeople54

Original post by M67

You've only been a club since 2012, hardly the most successful in the world.

Two ways to look at it.You will never equal rfc record if that's the old one as you say.and now Newco 1 each with you hahaha.Your club is under s different company apart from CFCs so what the difference.You done wrong and big jock knew you can't change it.We know and you know your history

Why are Celtic hated so much?

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