The Student Room Group
Reply 1
all depends on experience, what LEA your in, what position you are at etc etc!

obviously if you are a good teacher you will be in a good lea at a good school with a very high position so quite a bit more money!

My personal opinion though is that if you are going into teaching for the money then you shouldnt be going into teaching at all!!
Reply 2
Lime_01

obviously if you are a good teacher you will be in a good lea at a good school with a very high position so quite a bit more money!


I disagree with that. Not all good teachers are fortunate to be in a good LEA and employed in a good school. Likewise, many "bad" schools have very good teachers. My secondary school was terrible, and it's now the school I work at, yet I was taught by some very good and inspirational teachers, so saying the above is quite a generalisation.
Reply 3
sexysax
I disagree with that. Not all good teachers are fortunate to be in a good LEA and employed in a good school. Likewise, many "bad" schools have very good teachers. My secondary school was terrible, and it's now the school I work at, yet I was taught by some very good and inspirational teachers, so saying the above is quite a generalisation.

I couldn't agree more.
I have followed discussions where teachers deliberately applied for jobs at 'failing' schools or schools with a bad reputation.
Some like the challenge, I guess, and it can be very rewarding!
Reply 4
sorry too generalized! :P
Lime_01
My personal opinion though is that if you are going into teaching for the money then you shouldnt be going into teaching at all!!

But money is still a big consideration. What about your family?
Lime_01


My personal opinion though is that if you are going into teaching for the money then you shouldnt be going into teaching at all!!


It's a perfectly valid concern. Houses and food don't come free... if you want to live comfortably, then you're going to have to consider the salaries of potential careers. End of.
Reply 7
good debate going on here havent we!

my point was you should be going into teaching because you want to or similar. I know quite a few people who are considering going into teaching just because its like a a back up option!
Reply 8
Can someone answer my question.

Thanks for your comments anyway...
Reply 9
It depends if the school is state or private but a NQT (newly Qualified teacher) can earn up to £23, 000 in London so i'd say an average for outside London 20 years experience is £30, 000 but will be more or less depending on indivdual school, age range taught, responsibility and subject.

Science and Maths teachers currently earn more (on average) than Drama or PE if you're in London for example.

hope that helps
Currently an ordinary teacher could be earning up to £28,700 ish.

If they qualify for the upper payscale they could be earning up to £33,400.

An advanced skill teacher could earn up to £51,800.

If you had extra responsibilities you could add on between either £2,300 to £5,700 or £6,600 to £11,300, depening on the reponsibility.

Deputy and assistant heads can be paid between £33,200 and £93,300 and will always be paid more than the highest earning classroom teacher (which I've just found out!)

Headteachers will get somewhere between £38,500 and £95,600.

These numbers should all be for people teaching this year an are for outside of London. Higher pay scales are used for teahcers in the London fringe, outer Lonon and inner London.
Reply 11
Roger Kirk
Currently an ordinary teacher could be earning up to £28,700 ish.

If they qualify for the upper payscale they could be earning up to £33,400.

An advanced skill teacher could earn up to £51,800.

If you had extra responsibilities you could add on between either £2,300 to £5,700 or £6,600 to £11,300, depening on the reponsibility.

Deputy and assistant heads can be paid between £33,200 and £93,300 and will always be paid more than the highest earning classroom teacher (which I've just found out!)

Headteachers will get somewhere between £38,500 and £95,600.

These numbers should all be for people teaching this year an are for outside of London. Higher pay scales are used for teahcers in the London fringe, outer Lonon and inner London.

Teacher pay is ridiculous. Secondary teachers should start on £25,000 and be on £30,000 after 5 years. Officers in the army are on way more than teachers given time-served, and although they do an important job, it's defence, plus a degree in not required.

God bless labour.
Astor
Teacher pay is ridiculous. Secondary teachers should start on £25,000 and be on £30,000 after 5 years. Officers in the army are on way more than teachers given time-served, and although they do an important job, it's defence, plus a degree in not required.

God bless labour.

Is the God bless Labour comment aimed at the Labour party? Because what ever you might think is wrong with teachers pay at the moment, comapred to other professions, teaching is relatively better paid now that it was 10 years ago when Labour came to power. Improvements need to be gradual however, otherwise it wold cause a huge increase in costs at anyone time. Expect things to keep on gradually impoving in regards to teachers pay over the next few years, whilever Labour stay in power.
Reply 13
Roger Kirk
Is the God bless Labour comment aimed at the Labour party? Because what ever you might think is wrong with teachers pay at the moment, comapred to other professions, teaching is relatively better paid now that it was 10 years ago when Labour came to power. Improvements need to be gradual however, otherwise it wold cause a huge increase in costs at anyone time. Expect things to keep on gradually impoving in regards to teachers pay over the next few years, whilever Labour stay in power.

The labour government have been good to teachers (support wise and material wise, certainly not socially) because the labour government are sleazy and will never be honest, they are a part of liars, the tories may have given sectors a hard time but they were always realistic. Anyway I think the next tory government are going to be surprisingly teacher-friendly.

The point is, teacher pay is not what it should be.

Better pay -> Better graduates -> Better quality of educators -> Higher standards -> higher teacher status.

At the moment, a 'teacher' is on par to a nurse or sainsburys manager. Thats not on. Teachers used to be very highly regarded.