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The conflict is a complex one; and there has been wrong doing on both sides. since 1966 the Palestinian/Israeli conflict has killed an estimated 115 thousand people both Arab and non Arab.
So how would we solve this issue peacefully? How long will this method take? or will the conflict never be over?

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EDIT- oops, just realised i posted this in 'news and current affairs :/ if a mod can move it to the appropriate place that would be amazing
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The conflict will never be over (more than likely). It's like trying to solve world peace on a smaller scale. Won't happen.
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(Original post by ScrewExams)
The conflict is a complex one; and there has been wrong doing on both sides. since 1966 the Palestinian/Israeli conflict has killed an estimated 115 thousand people both Arab and non Arab.
So how would we solve this issue peacefully? How long will this method take? or will the conflict never be over?

All thoughts welcome
EDIT- oops, just realised i posted this in 'news and current affairs :/ if a mod can move it to the appropriate place that would be amazing
If everyone stops interfering, stops giving aid and stops giving attention to both sides, they will eventually have no choice but to make peace.
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Of course it will never be solved. The Islamic world have had a personal vendetta against Israel since governmental power was handed over to the Jewish population from the British. They will continue to try and annex Israel from Jewish hands as long as they live. The only way it will end is if one beats the other. It is the reality of life, one of them has to win or the fighting will continue, you either want the Israelis to control the state or Hamas, and for all our interests we would never want Hamas controlling the state as it would be a massive breeding ground for terror. We have to support our interests and unlike most of the Arab world Israel does not want to destroy the west, I know who's side I am on
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i don't think we, as citizens, will be able to solve this conflict no matter how many times we protest, raise awareness, demonstrations, etc. i think it's up to the politicians themselves; the people who are in power and control.
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Of course it will never be solved. The Islamic world have had a personal vendetta against Israel since governmental power was handed over to the Jewish population from the British. They will continue to try and annex Israel from Jewish hands as long as they live. The only way it will end is if one beats the other. It is the reality of life, one of them has to win or the fighting will continue, you either want the Israelis to control the state or Hamas, and for all our interests we would never want Hamas controlling the state as it would be a massive breeding ground for terror. We have to support our interests and unlike most of the Arab world Israel does not want to destroy the west, I know who's side I am on
You're trying to act as if one side is fully to blame. It's obvious Israel had an agenda to seize more territory from the palestinians. Theres even a documentary about how Israeli Judges are evicting Palestinian people from their homes in which they've lived for hundreds of years to give to Israeli settlers.
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You're trying to act as if one side is fully to blame. It's obvious Israel had an agenda to seize more territory from the palestinians. Theres even a documentary about how Israeli Judges are evicting Palestinian people from their homes in which they've lived for hundreds of years to give to Israeli settlers.
And there is similar documentaries that dispute those claims or highlight the tunnel building, rocket fire, terror recruitment and so on. We can search far and wide for Palestinian propaganda and Israeli propaganda, fact is Hamas and Israelis will just continue to fight each other out of pure hatred. When I watched Hamas propaganda videos are saw nothing about land or homes, just a pure hatred towards Israel and Jews, you are free to go and watch the propaganda, like ISIS they publish regularly.
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Blaah, the Israeli-Palestine conflict.

It's basically an argument between communists and jews.

It's a pathetic war over basically nothing and we should all just ignore it.
There are plenty of other things going on which we can all argue over on the internet.
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Kill Netanyahu and bring in an Israeli president who actually wants peace. The only way to ever achieve peace is to stop Netanyahu or the end result will be the eradication of the Palestinians. He's said on numerous occasions that he does not want peace.
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Either Israel offers a viable Palestinian state in the 1967 lines soon (what Olmert nicely termed the "Algerian solution") or Israel goes full apartheid and the Palestinian position shifts from an independent state to 'one man, one vote' in a single binational state (the "South African solution").
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it will end when muslims man up and accept isreal

So basically never
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it will end when muslims man up and accept isreal

So basically never
What bull****.
Palestine RIGHTFULLY belongs to Palestinians, it did and it always will. It is their country. Britain had no right to hand someone else's country over, it's basic morals whether they're 'muslims' or not.
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What bull****.
Palestine RIGHTFULLY belongs to Palestinians, it did and it always will. It is their country. Britain had no right to hand someone else's country over, it's basic morals whether they're 'muslims' or not.

but it's happened now

Jews need isreal, where will they go?
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but it's happened now

Jews need isreal, where will they go?
Do you realise that when the holocaust was happening, the Middle east were the only ones who actually protected the jews, as it was one of the only places where Nazi Germany couldn't come. they welcomed them in their homes and gave them refuge. Where were Britain, France or America when thousands of jews were being killed? Muslims were the only ones to help and this is how the jews repay them, by slaughtering the palestinians and claiming their land. It's no shock why the Middle East completely opposes and has no alliances with Israel.

Listen, stop with the, 'Jews need israel, where will they go'. What about the palestinians? is it not their home country? the jews can live in Palestine peacefully, but it will never come to this, now innocent jews and palestinians are dying everyday because of this conflict.
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Do you realise that when the holocaust was happening, the Middle east were the only ones who actually protected the jews, as it was one of the only places where Nazi Germany couldn't come. they welcomed them in their homes and gave them refuge. Where were Britain, France or America when thousands of jews were being killed? Muslims were the only ones to help and this is how the jews repay them, by slaughtering the palestinians and claiming their land. It's no shock why the Middle East completely opposes and has no alliances with Israel.

Listen, stop with the, 'Jews need israel, where will they go'. What about the palestinians? is it not their home country? the jews can live in Palestine peacefully, but it will never come to this, now innocent jews and palestinians are dying everyday because of this conflict.
This is actually so accurate!!
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Lock Benjamin Netanyahu and Mahmoud Abbas in a room together and don't let them out until they've agreed on a final settlement and had it ratified by their respective parliaments. After a few weeks, either they'll discover that their commonalities outweigh their differences and they'll embrace in a spirit of brotherhood (unlikely), or they'll be so desperate to get away from one other that they'll agree to anything.

On second thoughts, we should put Khaled Mashal, the leader of Hamas, in there with them as well. If Netanyahu can came to an agreement with Hamas, he can certainly come to one with Palestine.
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Do you realise that when the holocaust was happening, the Middle east were the only ones who actually protected the jews, as it was one of the only places where Nazi Germany couldn't come. they welcomed them in their homes and gave them refuge. Where were Britain, France or America when thousands of jews were being killed? Muslims were the only ones to help and this is how the jews repay them, by slaughtering the palestinians and claiming their land. It's no shock why the Middle East completely opposes and has no alliances with Israel.

Listen, stop with the, 'Jews need israel, where will they go'. What about the palestinians? is it not their home country? the jews can live in Palestine peacefully, but it will never come to this, now innocent jews and palestinians are dying everyday because of this conflict.
It worries me how much Muslims seem to be lied to on this issue, seriously it's reminiscent of Nazi style propaganda. First the middle east (particularly Palestine and Iraq) hated the Jews and were more than allies with the Nazis, hell there were three SS divisions that had significant numbers of Muslim pilots and parachutist who were dropped into Palestine with the sole intention of killing Jews. Here is what Haj Amin al-Husseini said when he was told about the final solution (although it is more than likely he knew the whole time).

"It is the duty of Muhammadans in general and Arabs in particular to … drive all Jews from Arab and Muhammadan countries….Germany is also struggling against the common foe who oppressed Arabs and Muhammadans in their different countries. It has very clearly recognized the Jews for what they are and resolved to find a definitive solution [endgültige Lösung] for the Jewish danger that will eliminate the scourge that Jews represent in the world".

This guy was basically the leader of the Palestinians and its pretty clear he didn't have any intention of living side by side with Jews. Also it is grossly offensive and completely inaccurate to suggest Muslims were the only ones protecting innocent Jews trying to escape genocide, there were considerable numbers of individuals and groups who hid or helped smuggle Jews away. Netherlands, France, Poland, Greece, Belgium, Denmark, Bulgaria, Portugal, Spain, Lithuania, Albania, Finland even Italy and Germany even China all made considerable attempts at saving Jews (with the exception of Italy, Germany and China each one of these countries did more for the Jews escaping persecution than the entire middle east combined). There were a number of Muslims who helped Jews escape or otherwise tried to provide aid, very few of them were in the middle east.

The Palestinians will never have a place in Israel at this point, there is far too much bad blood and while both sides are to blame for that the biggest culprit by FAR is the Arab world who consistently use the Palestinians as a propaganda tool against the Jews as part of what they view a bigger struggle against Israel becoming even more of a regional power. The only value a Palestinian seems to have to the traditionally seen "leaders" of the Arab world is when they are on the floor covered in blood, this makes peace impossible.
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