what are the chances of transfering from pharmacy to medicine or dentistry

I'm rather confused... :confused:

Firstly, you do realise that Medicine and Dentistry are rather different don't you?

If you mean transfer after 1st year, the chances are non-existent I would say. For a start, Liverpool John Moores, Bradford and UCLAN don't even offer Medicine as a course... And I don't think Leicester offer Dentistry.

If you mean phoning up unis on results day, why would they take you when you never even applied there in the first place?! Also, the chances of anyone getting in this way are very low, and if they do it's because they were really good at interview or narrowly missed their grades usually. And this can only happen if the uni actually has any spare places to offer, which they usually don't!

Reply 2

Wangers

Medicine is one of the few remaining hallowed courses that:

You can't transfere into - one exception was Georges - I think they stopped that now??

There are NO places on clearing - unless the whole year is a disaster of epic proportions.

Reply 3

raulgonzalez

OP

kinda regretted applying for pharmacy should ve done medicine or dentistry.
i just thought there might be some lucky people who would ve gt in that way where they would ve rang up on the day to see wheter there were any places or someone could transfer.
as i have gt a place at manchester i jus assumed there may be a chance (i know one in a million but i can stil believe)
on results day if i have gt the grades goin to manchester medical or dental school( as i live round the corner from der) askin them by the way i ve gt a place for pharmacy bt i dnt wna do it i wna do your course do you have any places lol i knw unlikely

Reply 4

Wangers

Medical or dental,

you make it sound like you decide on the toss of a coin! Have you got any work experience?

Reply 5

raulgonzalez

OP

my brother is a doctor an bro in law is dentist so know what both is entails

Reply 6

Huw Davies

11

Unless you've been stalking them, you probably haven't got much proper first-hand work experience of the career though, which is a requirement for all UK medical courses. There's no chance of your transferring directly.

If you're seriously about medicine or dentistry (and if you are, you should really know which), then your best bet is to reapply, using the year out to get some decent experience of the career. It's possible to apply for an accelerate programme as a graduate (4 years rather than 5) but entry for these is very competitive.

Reply 7

fundamentally

raulgonzalez

i ve got into pharmacy but realised its not what i want to do so say on results i get the grades which is required for medicine and dentistry do you think they would take me on

No chance at all of a TRANSFER.
You need to have done the UKCAT and/or the BMAT.
And gone to the interviews.

You can always reapply or finish pharmacy and then apply for graduate medicine.

Reply 8

Philosoraptor

18

fundamentally

No chance at all of a TRANSFER.
You need to have done the UMAT and/or the BMAT.
And gone to the interviews.

You can always reapply or finish pharmacy and then apply for graduate medicine.

I concur.

Reply 9

fundamentally

No chance at all of a TRANSFER.
You need to have done the UMAT and/or the BMAT.
And gone to the interviews.

You can always reapply or finish pharmacy and then apply for graduate medicine.

I think you mean UKCAT :wink:

I don't think Pharmacy is the best degree to do with a view to grad entry either. You have to do a 4 year degree and a pre-reg year in order to be fully qualified. I guess you could work as a Pharmacist through med school and earn a bit of money though!

Reply 10

Abra

14

The simplest solution to your problem....

when and IF you get the required grades (AAB/AAA)- apply for Medicine/Dentistry. Your chances are much higher if you actually have the required grades at A level. I don't think any university will reject/not interview you unless your PS was an absolute disaster. DO NOT do Pharmacy if you've got the required resultsfor Medicine/Dentistry! qualifying as a Pharmacist (5yr including pre-reg) is as long as Medicine/Dentistry.

Reply 11

Fluffy

Abra

The simplest solution to your problem....

when and IF you get the required grades (AAB/AAA)- apply for Medicine/Dentistry. Your chances are much higher if you actually have the required grades at A level. I don't think any university will reject/not interview you unless your PS was an absolute disaster. DO NOT do Pharmacy if you've got the required resultsfor Medicine/Dentistry! qualifying as a Pharmacist (5yr including pre-reg) is as long as Medicine/Dentistry.

I concur.

Also, word on the street has it that the Government are about to scrap the extended DH bursary and fees help for graduate entry courses, making medicine bloody expensive to do as a 2nd degree. There is also talk of them scrapping student loans for ALL second degreers (at the moment there is a caveat that second degree medics/dentalists/vets/architects/other 'professionals' can apply for student loans, no other second degreer can). Not to mention not getting fees help...

Reply 12

Wangers

Yikes - better get in first time round then :biggrin:

- if not gap year, I wont be able to afford it otherwise :frown:

Reply 13

Shockley

Fluffy

I concur.

Also, word on the street has it that the Government are about to scrap the extended DH bursary and fees help for graduate entry courses, making medicine bloody expensive to do as a 2nd degree. There is also talk of them scrapping student loans for ALL second degreers (at the moment there is a caveat that second degree medics/dentalists/vets/architects/other 'professionals' can apply for student loans, no other second degreer can). Not to mention not getting fees help...

What, so that means the fees will be shunted up to at least £16k a year?

Reply 14

Juncture

Wangers

Medicine is one of the few remaining hallowed courses that:

You can't transfere into - one exception was Georges - I think they stopped that now??

There are NO places on clearing - unless the whole year is a disaster of epic proportions.

I believe if you apply for Biochemistry at Newcastle there are a small number of transfer places for transferring at the end of year 1, this is what someone i met at a post-application biochem open day at Leeds was telling me (Because they applied for medicine with 2 biochem back-ups)

Reply 15

Fluffy

LePinkPanther

What, so that means the fees will be shunted up to at least £16k a year?

£12k max - which is what it currently is for graduates on 5 year courses (year 5 is paid for by the DH), with £9k for GEP (with one year of DH fees help).

Reply 16

Fluffy

£12k max - which is what it currently is for graduates on 5 year courses (year 5 is paid for by the DH), with £9k for GEP (with one year of DH fees help).

I hope you mean £12k in total, £3k x 4 on a 5 year course. And on a GEP, you only have to pay £3k fees in Year 1, nothing in other years. Or I am getting confused and you are actually talking about something else?

Juncture

I believe if you apply for Biochemistry at Newcastle there are a small number of transfer places for transferring at the end of year 1, this is what someone i met at a post-application biochem open day at Leeds was telling me (Because they applied for medicine with 2 biochem back-ups)

I've heard of that at Newcastle for Biomedical Sciences. I think you have to get ridiculously high marks in 1st year, and still have to go through an interview, and then they only let about 2 or 3 in anyway.

Reply 17

Shockley

K41

I hope you mean £12k in total, £3k x 4 on a 5 year course. And on a GEP, you only have to pay £3k fees in Year 1, nothing in other years. Or I am getting confused and you are actually talking about something else?

Yeah, thats what I was thinking. I assumed it was £3000 a year for Medicine as a second degree.

Reply 18

LePinkPanther

Yeah, thats what I was thinking. I assumed it was £3000 a year for Medicine as a second degree.

I've just re-read Fluffy's post, I think what she's saying is that on a GEP, there will no longer be the funding like there is now, where people only pay £3k in Year 1, it'll be the same as the 5 year course, pay fees in all years except final year, which is where the £9k comes from.

And yeah fees are £3k a year now, as it stands on a GEP only paid in Year 1, and on a 5 year course in Years 1-4.

Reply 19

Fluffy