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Why don't Oxbridge do dentistry?
I've been looking on the websites of various unis that do dentistry and was surprised to find that Cambridge and Oxford do not? Does any1 know why this is??
*Princess*
I've been looking on the websites of various unis that do dentistry and was surprised to find that Cambridge and Oxford do not? Does any1 know why this is??
Probably mainly historical reasons. Unlike medicine, dentistry as a university degree is fairly new and started in Baltimore, Maryland in 1840.
The lack of prestige is probably a significant issue too. After all, they don't have nursing, surveying or media studies either. And only Cambridge ( the younger and less prestigious/lesser of the two) has teachers training and they seem terribly embarrassed by having it at all.
Cost is a factor too. Even though dentistry is now a well established degree, it is so expensive to run the course ( as expensive as training doctors ) that Oxbridge have no incentive to open a dental school.
fundamentally
Probably mainly historical reasons. Unlike medicine, dentistry as a university degree is fairly new and started in Baltimore, Maryland in 1840.
The lack of prestige is probably a significant issue too. After all, they don't have nursing, surveying or media studies either. And only Cambridge ( the younger and less prestigious/lesser of the two) has teachers training and they seem terribly embarrassed by having it at all.
Cost is a factor too. Even though dentistry is now a well established degree, it is so expensive to run the course ( as expensive as training doctors ) that Oxbridge have no incentive to open a dental school.
The lack of prestige is probably a significant issue too. After all, they don't have nursing, surveying or media studies either. And only Cambridge ( the younger and less prestigious/lesser of the two) has teachers training and they seem terribly embarrassed by having it at all.
Cost is a factor too. Even though dentistry is now a well established degree, it is so expensive to run the course ( as expensive as training doctors ) that Oxbridge have no incentive to open a dental school.
Historically dentistry has as much prestige and history as medicine!
I'm sure puppy would be delighted to bestow some of her classics knowledge upon you. Just ask about the Ionians in 5-6BC~, and for some info about hippocrates!
samba
Historically dentistry has as much prestige and history as medicine! Just ask about the Ionians in 5-6BC~
I suspect that prestige between between 1600 A.D and 2000 A.D is more relevant to the setting up of degrees at Oxford. For instance, mercantilism was considered crass in the 1800's. However, the Said Business School at Oxford is unashamed to offer a world class MBA.
I dont think that dentistry has ever emerged from its shadowy reputation as a poor distant cousin of medicine.
a poor distant cousin of medicine?!!....thats extremely...rude!...how can you possibly say that??? dentistry is actaully a specialised form of medicine....it requires not just someone who has a passion for science...it requires a person...who is all rounded...with qualities ranging from being an entrepreneur...to a psychologist...and not forgetting clinical excellence....and lets be absolutely honest....there is no profession that can be compared to dentistry...go on think about..i can guarentee you.....there is absolutely no profession that can match up to the demands of dentistry...go on thinkkkkk......EXACTLY........its only those who are multi-talented...apply for such a demanding course!
kotecha
dentistry is actaully a specialised form of medicine.
Only in the same sense that you could say that nursing is a specialised form of medicine. I dont think that any doctor would be too convinced if you tried to tell her that dentistry is a form of medicine.
If dentistry is so wonderful, why dont doctors claim that medicine is a generalised version of dentistry ? Stop trying to pretend you are as good as doctors.
nursing isnt a specialised form of medicine...the academic rigour is nowhere the same!...if youre going to make a comparison atelast make it realistic!???!...come on..the meidcs and dentists are together for the first year..and parts of the second!...we end up doing the same work...only difference is...medics dont specialise into a certain area...until they graduate..do loads of hospital work...more exams...more pressure...and then...also..not forgetting the bureacratic nature of trying to specialise...no medic is becoming a specialist until atleast mid-30's!...so stop fooling yourself...thinking that medics are the best?!..i mean just you showing that you are thinking like that shows you are very naive, and narrow minded!...not the qualities of a successful dentist...so.....obviously youre applying for medicine!
i respect medics becasue i agree they work hard...etc...but so do dentists!...they work just as hard...do tedious surgery..and make a difference as well!...put it this way...im sure you brush your teeth twice a day...without even giving it a second thought...its so important in your life...that you dont even go to bed...or go to school without brushing!...soooo...basically the start of your day and the end of your day...you think of a dentist...(subconciously...maybe!!)...but you do!....sooo...my point is...your life revolves around dentistry (brushing to be precise)!......lol.....hope you get that!.....
i respect medics becasue i agree they work hard...etc...but so do dentists!...they work just as hard...do tedious surgery..and make a difference as well!...put it this way...im sure you brush your teeth twice a day...without even giving it a second thought...its so important in your life...that you dont even go to bed...or go to school without brushing!...soooo...basically the start of your day and the end of your day...you think of a dentist...(subconciously...maybe!!)...but you do!....sooo...my point is...your life revolves around dentistry (brushing to be precise)!......lol.....hope you get that!.....
ask a GP to take out ur tooth properly like a dentist.. naaa.. it'll take forever.
ask a GDP to treat Cushing's. naaa.. it'll take forever.
Dentists and Doctors are special in their own ways. medic course takes 5 years (well, mostly) and so does dentistry. we (GP and GDP) all treat patients, patients need us. or else they'll always b in pain. that's what we generally do, ease their pain.
ask a GDP to treat Cushing's. naaa.. it'll take forever.
Dentists and Doctors are special in their own ways. medic course takes 5 years (well, mostly) and so does dentistry. we (GP and GDP) all treat patients, patients need us. or else they'll always b in pain. that's what we generally do, ease their pain.
Historically dentistry has as much prestige and history as medicine!
Historically (in the Middle Ages and into the nineteenth century, which is the relevant period for Oxbridge) dentistry was not viewed as a profession within itself and was carried out as a sideline by general physicians or barbers. Hence it was not taught at the ancient universities.
Lets be honest, most of us could just have easily applied to medicine and gotten in, im pretty sure I would have (in a completely non arrogant way before u all start) because skills required are more or less similar. Its really not about dentists "pretending they are as good" because to be honest, we definately are as good, and we would all have made brilliant doctors if we went down that path. we CHOSE not to - nobody does dentistry beacause medicine is too hard.
We're both health care professionals, lets just leave it at that.
We're both health care professionals, lets just leave it at that.
fundamentally
Only in the same sense that you could say that nursing is a specialised form of medicine. I dont think that any doctor would be too convinced if you tried to tell her that dentistry is a form of medicine.
If dentistry is so wonderful, why dont doctors claim that medicine is a generalised version of dentistry ? Stop trying to pretend you are as good as doctors.
If dentistry is so wonderful, why dont doctors claim that medicine is a generalised version of dentistry ? Stop trying to pretend you are as good as doctors.
don't you have something more productive to do with your time than come on here and attempt to put down people who are passionate about their career choice! maybe if you put the same efforts in to your own you would be a less miserable person and not feel the need to come on here and leave arrogant comments..you don't see the dental applicants on the medicine forum slagging you off. I could have applied to medicine as could the majority of the people on this forum but we have chosen not to and we don't have to justify why to you!
merry christmas lol
maz
wow and years later here's me taking down points for "why dentistry and not medicine?"
Original post by fundamentally
And only Cambridge ( the younger and less prestigious/lesser of the two) has teachers training and they seem terribly embarrassed by having it at all.
That's not quite true: Cambridge has an undergraduate degree in Education, whereas Oxford does not.
Both offer PGCEs (teacher training) although Cambridge seems to have more people doing that (400+) compared to Oxford (more like 200).
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