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napster is a bit behind the times though. thought you would know. its a file sharing service, where you can download anything (which they are sharing) from another persons computer.

ooooooooo ok understanding a little bit more but ohhhhhhhhhhhh ok
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ooooooooo ok understanding a little bit more but ohhhhhhhhhhhh ok
basically people use it to acquire mp3s, so the music industry is getting a bit peeved.
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basically people use it to acquire mp3s, so the music industry is getting a bit peeved.

hmmmmmmmm ok cheers mush........sorry bout the bug face thing......................heheh aha!!!
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Why don't the RIAA target Kazaa instead? It easier than taking 3 or so million people to court. It seems so obvious that if they were to close it down, no-one would be able to use it. Or is it more complex then that? Someone please explain!
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Why don't the RIAA target Kazaa instead? It easier than taking 3 or so million people to court. It seems so obvious that if they were to close it down, no-one would be able to use it. Or is it more complex then that? Someone please explain!
There are many things similar to Kazaa, such as Shareaza which i use to find totally legal files, honestly, so targeting the users puts others off from using them, while if only Kazaa gets targeted, whats to stop people using the alternatives?
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There are many things similar to Kazaa, such as Shareaza which i use to find totally legal files, honestly, so targeting the users puts others off from using them, while if only Kazaa gets targeted, whats to stop people using the alternatives?
Well, they could still target the other file-sharing programs people use. New ones might come out all the time but at least it isn't as difficult as millions of people to confront.
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Well, they could still target the other file-sharing programs people use. New ones might come out all the time but at least it isn't as difficult as millions of people to confront.
Its only a threat in my opinion. I dont think they have the guts to actually do it.
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Why don't the RIAA target Kazaa instead? It easier than taking 3 or so million people to court. It seems so obvious that if they were to close it down, no-one would be able to use it. Or is it more complex then that? Someone please explain!
a) kazaa is not doing anything illegal - it's the users who are
b) it is not a central hub system, but each user is just connected to another user (who is connected to another etc, like a fish net). So taking down "a central kazaa source" would not necessarily take down the file sharing network.
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How do they trace you if your blocking your IP Address. Theirs now way in hell they can trace you through your MAC address you connect through to many routers.
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imnew and i have kazaa lite, is it possible for them to trace me because i am sharing files. is there anything i can do to stop them doing this?
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is there anything i can do to stop them doing this?
turn it off.
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THNX ive dun that. and dus any1 no the link 4 the new kazaa lite wich stops the RIAA also Does anyone no any good firewall protection from the riaa
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THNX ive dun that. and dus any1 no the link 4 the new kazaa lite wich stops the RIAA also Does anyone no any good firewall protection from the riaa
You might have a firewall up, but you open the port tolet kazaa share files. i goes through routers and you ip can be traced. go to the dos and type tracert and a ip to a site. it will go show all the ips it goes through. You are never safe when using file saring programs like kazaa. There are security holes that allow users to trace your ip, through a download using packet sniffers. as kazza is peer to peer. This is very dangerous as hackers can then use your ip to ack in, to leave trojans, proxy servers and such like.

Kazaa will never be shut down as they only supply the service. It's you who use it.
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so they are going to get the details for over several million people across the world, track them down and take them to court and hope that every single person will pay up. the very thought is ridiculous, and it has to be remembered that downloading songs is not in itself illegal, copying and distributing them for a profit is illegal.
I dunno where this misconception keeps coming from.

Firstly: It is illegal to obtain music without permission. Downloading music is only legal where authorised by the copyright holders - and so far they've only authorised those services where you have to pay to download. Such as iTunes. Getting music off Kazzaa is illegal.

If you own the CD and are downloading an MP3 file of a song from that CD, then the legality is questionable. Some people believe that comes under fair use. But if you don't own the CD (or some other licence to play the music) then obtaining it without paying is illegal.

Also, copying and distributing is illegal no matter whether you make a profit or not. If you give copied CDs away, it's still illegal.

when i installed kazaa for the first time i remember ticking a box which meant i did not share any of my files i.e. i could download files but no-one could upload them from my PC. i guess this means that I have done nothing illegal
Wrong answer! You have broken the law if you've downloaded music files that you don't own the CD for. Now, you'll probably never get sued for it... they do only go after the big filesharers. But that doesn't make it allowed.

So yes, it is possible but there are so many users you are unlikley to be targetted, especially if you only download files and don't share any.
Yup.

I dont believe thats possible.
It's definitely possible. It'd take a ****load of time and effort, though, so I doubt they'd ever do it.


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Hi im thinking about downloading Kazaa Lite
My friend insists these facts: Its Safe, virus free, no ad or spyware, no way you can be traced and perfectly safe with a anti virus and firewall.
Is this true?
I want to be sure!
How illegal is this thing? or shall i say is it?
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Hi im thinking about downloading Kazaa Lite
My friend insists these facts: Its Safe, virus free, no ad or spyware, no way you can be traced and perfectly safe with a anti virus and firewall.
Is this true?
I want to be sure!
How illegal is this thing? or shall i say is it?
You can be traced so easily if someone wanted to, fact is no one is going to bother as there are so many people using it. Only the people who are sharing tens of thousands of files are targeted.
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Hi im thinking about downloading Kazaa Lite
My friend insists these facts: Its Safe, virus free, no ad or spyware, no way you can be traced and perfectly safe with a anti virus and firewall.
Is this true?
I want to be sure!
How illegal is this thing? or shall i say is it?
HE is right about the spyware. But...

You can catch viruses especially if you're downloading software, i have caught a virus like this.

Your firewall becomes useless because you are opening the port up to share files; so are you completely open to attacks. If you want music i found Winmx to be better for speeds, quality, security and not to mention multiple searches.
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HE is right about the spyware. But...

You can catch viruses especially if you're downloading software, i have caught a virus like this.

Your firewall becomes useless because you are opening the port up to share files; so are you completely open to attacks. If you want music i found Winmx to be better for speeds, quality, security and not to mention multiple searches.
Thanks for your comment, i was wondering, is emule plus a better option for safety and overall better quality?
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Thanks for your comment, i was wondering, is emule plus a better option for safety and overall better quality?
It depends what you want to download. Music, video, software etc.

With any file sharing network your firewall is going to be useless and you stand a greater chance of getting a virus. Kazaa Lite would probably be best for P2P but there are other methods of file sharing such as bit torrent. If you're interested PM me and i'll tell you a bit more about it.
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I dunno where this misconception keeps coming from.

Firstly: It is illegal to obtain music without permission. Downloading music is only legal where authorised by the copyright holders - and so far they've only authorised those services where you have to pay to download. Such as iTunes. Getting music off Kazzaa is illegal.
so by that definition, is it illegal to record music off the radio or use videos to record movies off the tv? or does the law apply differently here?
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