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Muslim girl sick of never being good enough!

K, this is going to be a bit of a rant and maybe most of u will be thinking I'm out of order but I need to vent.

I've always been what u would call a 'good girl' in that I never went against my parents and my conscience never allowed me to do anything deemed unsuitable - in religion or otherwise.

I just think that whatever I do, I'm never good enough! I never used to cover my hair but was told to by parents so I did when I was 11. I was constantly told to pray 5 times a day and I did but then was told to change how I dress. I then chose to wear long garments to dress more modestly but then was told it would be better to cover my face. I'm always met with some lecture or another by someone about religion and it sucks bcos I'm always guilted into everything.

Granted, I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but I always try to be nice and don't go out of my way to displease anyone. Yet, somehow these aren't enough. I'm constantly told how I'm supposed to be and no matter how much I adapt, there is always another hoop to jump through.

It depresses me sometimes. I have anxiety and don't socialise much but all these restrictions are making it harder for me have the confidence to do that. I get that we can't speak to guys but then that makes me think I will spend my whole life not talking to the opposite gender as it's seen as sinful, even when it's just friendly. It just makes me scared that my future husband will be the only outside man I'll have interaction with and the fact that he will be my first experience of socialising with the opposite gender terrifies me. Just think it may be detrimental to my already low self esteem.

I've had a pretty sheltered life and it's getting me down that I never had any sort of independence or freedom just because I happened to be born a female - I would rather be a man tbh.

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Do what you want, I understand that it's hard to conform to what your parents want you to do. There's just rule after rule.
Original post by Anonymous
K, this is going to be a bit of a rant and maybe most of u will be thinking I'm out of order but I need to vent.

I've always been what u would call a 'good girl' in that I never went against my parents and my conscience never allowed me to do anything deemed unsuitable - in religion or otherwise.

I just think that whatever I do, I'm never good enough! I never used to cover my hair but was told to by parents so I did when I was 11. I was constantly told to pray 5 times a day and I did but then was told to change how I dress. I then chose to wear long garments to dress more modestly but then was told it would be better to cover my face. I'm always met with some lecture or another by someone about religion and it sucks bcos I'm always guilted into everything.

Granted, I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but I always try to be nice and don't go out of my way to displease anyone. Yet, somehow these aren't enough. I'm constantly told how I'm supposed to be and no matter how much I adapt, there is always another hoop to jump through.

It depresses me sometimes. I have anxiety and don't socialise much but all these restrictions are making it harder for me have the confidence to do that. I get that we can't speak to guys but then that makes me think I will spend my whole life not talking to the opposite gender as it's seen as sinful, even when it's just friendly. It just makes me scared that my future husband will be the only outside man I'll have interaction with and the fact that he will be my first experience of socialising with the opposite gender terrifies me. Just think it may be detrimental to my already low self esteem.

I've had a pretty sheltered life and it's getting me down that I never had any sort of independence or freedom just because I happened to be born a female - I would rather be a man tbh.


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Reply 3
It must be a really awkward situation since we're told to always listen to our parents. It's even more difficult when religion is involved. I mean, at the end of the day you have to do what makes you happy, you should be allowed to make your own decisions and you definitely shouldn't have these thing forced upon you. You'll probably have to go against your parents unfortunately, but not being allowed to talk to boys seems a bit extreme. Is there anyway you could join a group somewhere, perhaps related to a hobby you have?
Reply 4
I'm not here to tell you how to live your life but... The cold hard facts are that both your religion and your parents are making you miserable, the latter really due to their forcing of Islam onto you.

But even then, Islam doesn't have to be this extreme. I have talked to Muslim girls who dress just like (I hate to use the word but) "Western" women. Not covering up everything and one Muslim girl has told me how she even wears tank tops.

Religious fundamentalism is a slowly dying thing. It is true many Christians are still against Gay Marriage but even then, legally gays can now marry in a Church (just one example). Something which would be simply an abomination during the height of Christian fundamentalism.

My advise is to follow the religion the way you want to, and how many young Muslims do today. As in, it is not the centre of your entire life, but instead is another part of it. Or of course, you could do away with religion all together, would probably make you happier.
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Decide how you want to live your life and stick with it. Life's too short.
Reply 6
Original post by Anonymous
K, this is going to be a bit of a rant and maybe most of u will be thinking I'm out of order but I need to vent.

I've always been what u would call a 'good girl' in that I never went against my parents and my conscience never allowed me to do anything deemed unsuitable - in religion or otherwise.

I just think that whatever I do, I'm never good enough! I never used to cover my hair but was told to by parents so I did when I was 11. I was constantly told to pray 5 times a day and I did but then was told to change how I dress. I then chose to wear long garments to dress more modestly but then was told it would be better to cover my face. I'm always met with some lecture or another by someone about religion and it sucks bcos I'm always guilted into everything.

Granted, I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but I always try to be nice and don't go out of my way to displease anyone. Yet, somehow these aren't enough. I'm constantly told how I'm supposed to be and no matter how much I adapt, there is always another hoop to jump through.

It depresses me sometimes. I have anxiety and don't socialise much but all these restrictions are making it harder for me have the confidence to do that. I get that we can't speak to guys but then that makes me think I will spend my whole life not talking to the opposite gender as it's seen as sinful, even when it's just friendly. It just makes me scared that my future husband will be the only outside man I'll have interaction with and the fact that he will be my first experience of socialising with the opposite gender terrifies me. Just think it may be detrimental to my already low self esteem.

I've had a pretty sheltered life and it's getting me down that I never had any sort of independence or freedom just because I happened to be born a female - I would rather be a man tbh.


I suggest you do what you want on your own terms.

Regards your so-called religion 'Islam', you will find that men and women in Arabia were negotiating business agreements with each other before, and during, the time that Mohammad & Khadijah arrived on the scene.

Don't fall the for Wahhabiist nonsense.
Original post by James E Walker
Decide how you want to live your life and stick with it. Life's too short.


very easy to say! it's not that easy for a muslim girl bearing in mind all the pressure she faces in her daily life
Original post by Anonymous
K, this is going to be a bit of a rant and maybe most of u will be thinking I'm out of order but I need to vent.

I've always been what u would call a 'good girl' in that I never went against my parents and my conscience never allowed me to do anything deemed unsuitable - in religion or otherwise.

I just think that whatever I do, I'm never good enough! I never used to cover my hair but was told to by parents so I did when I was 11. I was constantly told to pray 5 times a day and I did but then was told to change how I dress. I then chose to wear long garments to dress more modestly but then was told it would be better to cover my face. I'm always met with some lecture or another by someone about religion and it sucks bcos I'm always guilted into everything.

Granted, I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but I always try to be nice and don't go out of my way to displease anyone. Yet, somehow these aren't enough. I'm constantly told how I'm supposed to be and no matter how much I adapt, there is always another hoop to jump through.

It depresses me sometimes. I have anxiety and don't socialise much but all these restrictions are making it harder for me have the confidence to do that. I get that we can't speak to guys but then that makes me think I will spend my whole life not talking to the opposite gender as it's seen as sinful, even when it's just friendly. It just makes me scared that my future husband will be the only outside man I'll have interaction with and the fact that he will be my first experience of socialising with the opposite gender terrifies me. Just think it may be detrimental to my already low self esteem.

I've had a pretty sheltered life and it's getting me down that I never had any sort of independence or freedom just because I happened to be born a female - I would rather be a man tbh.


Sorry
I can see how much good you are by ranting out about your parents here on an online website filled with people who totally would say what you want to hear. But the truth is, if you were really that depressed then you should have read Quran and Hadeedh to find the best answers which surely you didn't so you don't know much. I dun know what advice to give you here but instead of complaining here maybe you should talk to your parents about this. :rolleyes:
Original post by Vegito
I can see how much good you are by ranting out about your parents here on an online website filled with people who totally would say what you want to hear. But the truth is, if you were really that depressed then you should have read Quran and Hadeedh to find the best answers which surely you didn't so you don't know much. I dun know what advice to give you here but instead of complaining here maybe you should talk to your parents about this. :rolleyes:


are you mad... she is clearly depressed her parents are the cause of this because of their extreme loyalty to their religion

Talking to her parents will make it worse, they will never understand

for them it is whatever they do is best for her the moment she complains she will be condemned for not knowing what is best for herself
Original post by hyenas.ma
are you mad... she is clearly depressed her parents are the cause of this because of their extreme loyalty to their religion

Talking to her parents will make it worse, they will never understand

for them it is whatever they do is best for her the moment she complains she will be condemned for not knowing what is best for herself


Are you stupid?

So you want her to make a decision of her own and not follow Islam and live a life like she wants to so that she could put their names to shame in the family and give them a reason to hate her for her actions.

Talking to her parents is the best option so that she can talk about her situation.
Reply 12
So do you actually believe in these rulings or just do it because your parents make you?
Original post by Vegito
Are you stupid?

So you want her to make a decision of her own and not follow Islam and live a life like she wants to so that she could put their names to shame in the family and give them a reason to hate her for her actions.

Talking to her parents is the best option so that she can talk about her situation.


err no she should do what makes her happy. No one should have to live up to the expectations of others. Her parents and community should respect her for who she is not bully her into following their expectations.
I feel the same way sometimes. I feel as though I have to keep proving myself etc. I've also had a bit of anxiety.

To overcome this, I decided to look wherever I want when I'm outside. I just made sure I didn't look at nakedness. I also started going to the gym. In college, I increased my confidence by talking to girls a little, just saying Hi, talking about work, hobbies, etc. I just made sure I didn't flirt. I also started going out more and prayed as much as possible.

Don't give up. You can still socialise with people, etc.
Original post by hyenas.ma
err no she should do what makes her happy. No one should have to live up to the expectations of others. Her parents and community should respect her for who she is not bully her into following their expectations.


They are not bullying her into following their expectations but what their religion tells. And if she was being bullied then I dun imagine she would would be even here to type this. Parents are suppose to expect things from their children. If they are not expecting anything then they are not raising them right.
hey i know exactly how you feel... i always get told i'll never get anywhere in life coz im not good enough but you know what you gotta prove them wrong.... its just that Asian lifestyle i guess :frown:
but if you ever wanna talk feel free to pm me. i hope it gets better for you xxx
Ok, your problem is that you're doing all these things for your parents sake as opposed to for your God's sake. The fact is, it sounds like you don't agree with, nor like, Islam. So at the end of the day it's up to you, if you wanna follow your religion then you will find out about it and its rules and why they are there. If, however, you want to follow your desires then you will probably rebel against your parents or go behind their back. Don't worry though because every single one of us make mistakes, I don't think you should feel not good enough, just go gradually at your own pace if you want, so right now is basically the time when you choose what path to take, and whether you believe there is a heaven and hell/punishment and reward. There is a point in life where we all go through this, so it's up to you now, what you feel is right (don't make hasty decisions though, try finding out as much as you can about all options)

So anyway, I hope I have a sort of non biased (or at least non forceful and not opinionated) point of view, I hope it's good advice and it helps you.
Original post by Anonymous
K, this is going to be a bit of a rant and maybe most of u will be thinking I'm out of order but I need to vent.

I've always been what u would call a 'good girl' in that I never went against my parents and my conscience never allowed me to do anything deemed unsuitable - in religion or otherwise.

I just think that whatever I do, I'm never good enough! I never used to cover my hair but was told to by parents so I did when I was 11. I was constantly told to pray 5 times a day and I did but then was told to change how I dress. I then chose to wear long garments to dress more modestly but then was told it would be better to cover my face. I'm always met with some lecture or another by someone about religion and it sucks bcos I'm always guilted into everything.

Granted, I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but I always try to be nice and don't go out of my way to displease anyone. Yet, somehow these aren't enough. I'm constantly told how I'm supposed to be and no matter how much I adapt, there is always another hoop to jump through.

It depresses me sometimes. I have anxiety and don't socialise much but all these restrictions are making it harder for me have the confidence to do that. I get that we can't speak to guys but then that makes me think I will spend my whole life not talking to the opposite gender as it's seen as sinful, even when it's just friendly. It just makes me scared that my future husband will be the only outside man I'll have interaction with and the fact that he will be my first experience of socialising with the opposite gender terrifies me. Just think it may be detrimental to my already low self esteem.

I've had a pretty sheltered life and it's getting me down that I never had any sort of independence or freedom just because I happened to be born a female - I would rather be a man tbh.


The answer is it is the CULTURE of your religion NOT THE RULES.

Do it your own way take off the burka it's just your cultures way of oppressing women.

Live your own life, if they really care about you above all else they will accept it.


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Reply 19
Original post by Anonymous
K, this is going to be a bit of a rant and maybe most of u will be thinking I'm out of order but I need to vent.

I've always been what u would call a 'good girl' in that I never went against my parents and my conscience never allowed me to do anything deemed unsuitable - in religion or otherwise.

I just think that whatever I do, I'm never good enough! I never used to cover my hair but was told to by parents so I did when I was 11. I was constantly told to pray 5 times a day and I did but then was told to change how I dress. I then chose to wear long garments to dress more modestly but then was told it would be better to cover my face. I'm always met with some lecture or another by someone about religion and it sucks bcos I'm always guilted into everything.

Granted, I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but I always try to be nice and don't go out of my way to displease anyone. Yet, somehow these aren't enough. I'm constantly told how I'm supposed to be and no matter how much I adapt, there is always another hoop to jump through.

It depresses me sometimes. I have anxiety and don't socialise much but all these restrictions are making it harder for me have the confidence to do that. I get that we can't speak to guys but then that makes me think I will spend my whole life not talking to the opposite gender as it's seen as sinful, even when it's just friendly. It just makes me scared that my future husband will be the only outside man I'll have interaction with and the fact that he will be my first experience of socialising with the opposite gender terrifies me. Just think it may be detrimental to my already low self esteem.

I've had a pretty sheltered life and it's getting me down that I never had any sort of independence or freedom just because I happened to be born a female - I would rather be a man tbh.


I don't know how old you are. If you are at an age where you are able to go to university, you will probably be able to slowly grow out of that sheltered life. It will be hard for you (don't want to sugar coat it) with your anxiety, low self esteem and the religious pressure from your family.

You're not ranting, everyone needs to blow of steam every now and again and not everyone has someone to do that with.

I know it won't help you much at the moment, but life will get better for you when you gain more independence. It might seem a long time away, but it will happen.

Regarding the pressure your family put on you about religion. My over half (Asian/Muslim) told me (white/atheist) that religion is personal, between the believer and his/her god. It should be a personal choice, not forced upon someone. Could you try and explain this to your parents, that your relationship with Allah is between you and him or at least you would like to pray in private, in your own room, to give you a bit of space.

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