Iran Controls The Middle East

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http://shoebat.com/2015/03/08/iran-d...ghdad-in-iraq/

That pre-emptive strike is looking very tempting right now.
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Striking iran would be like throwing a hand grenade into a fireworks factory. If you think the middle east is bad now, it would get ten times worse.

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"Iran controls the Middle East."

Apart from ISIS. And Saudi Arabia. And Rojava and Iraqi Kurdistan. And Israel and the Occupied Territories. So not really.

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Israel controls the world.
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Iran doesn't control the middle east. It is the dominant power in the Gulf of Arabia. However the Gulf Monarchies where created by the British Empire and the Americans now maintain the balance and stop Iran from being able to use its position manipulate the Gulf Monarchies. As if Iran were able to do this it could control the price of oil. Now you have Iran and Saudi attempting to have manipulation in the Northern corridor which is Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. However this area is bordered by Turkey so Iran is more limited in its power as the Turkish border runs all along the North corridor, whereas Iran only borders Iraq. This is why Iran is weaker in Lebanon and Syria, then Iraq.

What Saudi wants in the North corridor is chaos. As this means neither Iran or Turkey can threaten Saudi from the North. Right now Saudi has what it wants. Iran has been diminished and Turkey is waiting to act in a more active way until the political situation settles down.
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(Original post by william walker)
Iran doesn't control the middle east. It is the dominant power in the Gulf of Arabia..
What(/where?) on earth is the "Gulf of Arabia"? :confused:
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What(/where?) on earth is the "Gulf of Arabia"? :confused:
Ah it is the Persian Gulf, not the Arabia Gulf. My apologies.
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What Saudi wants in the North corridor is chaos. As this means neither Iran or Turkey can threaten Saudi from the North. Right now Saudi has what it wants. Iran has been diminished and Turkey is waiting to act in a more active way until the political situation settles down.
Arguably Iran wants chaos in the countries bordering Saudi. Especially Yemen, given the land border they share because of the shia population in southern Saudi.
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(Original post by Law-Hopeful)
Arguably Iran wants chaos in the countries bordering Saudi. Especially Yemen, given the land border they share because of the shia population in southern Saudi.
Iran doesn't want anything in Yemen, its importance is limited. Iran is taking what actions it can to knock Saudi Arabia off balance so it has to expend even more resources in Yemen. Meaning Saudi is less able to act in the Gulf and North corridor. What's happening in Yemen in an internal problem which needs to be sorted out. Saudi is coming in to sort it. Though I wouldn't expect Saudi to get over involved, just contain the situation. Saudi understand the tribal, ethnic and religious aspects of Yemen, so it will leverage its position and support specific actors where and when it needs to do so. Saudi isn't strong enough to force a government in Yemen, but because Saudi is intervening not actor in Yemen will be strong enough to form a government. However Saudi is weak and getting weaker, so that government could be formed at some point.

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This is pretty hilarious. Iran does not control the middle-east. Saudi-Arabia, Israel, the United states definitely hold the balance of power.

I am honestly tired of people beating the drums of war.
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This is pretty hilarious. Iran does not control the middle-east. Saudi-Arabia, Israel, the United states definitely hold the balance of power.

I am honestly tired of people beating the drums of war.
Iran is a terrorist regime which we should go to war with in the near future.
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Iran is a terrorist regime which we should go to war with in the near future.
What is your definition of a 'terrorist regime'?
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What is your definition of a 'terrorist regime'?
A regime that oppresses its people, gives arms and succour to terrorists and is ruled by Sharia Law, the law of Islam, the most evil religion on the planet with a holy book that prescribes terrorism.
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A regime that oppresses its people, gives arms and succour to terrorists and is ruled by Sharia Law, the law of Islam, the most evil religion on the planet with a holy book that prescribes terrorism.
Should we also 'go to war with' Saudi Arabia too then? And Pakistan?
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Should we also 'go to war with' Saudi Arabia too then? And Pakistan?
Yes.
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Yes.
Are you aware that Pakistan has nuclear weapons and that Saudi Arabia is currently a vital ally of the USA/UK because of its vast arms imports?

How would you fund a war with Iran; Pakistan AND Saudi Arabia? Sounds expensive...
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