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I'm going to start my comp sci degree and have it in my mind that I would want to either work in the IT sector or do Teaching, my pros and cons are same as yours, I think teaching would be more fun in the scene that everyday different, you meet new people yearly and have a laugh with the kids, whereas in IT the job may become boring after a while. However is the pay cut really worth it, especially with the life style I want. It doesn't help when my sister and cousins will all be starting on 30-40k salaries ;p

Plus the worse thing would be if your working in a school where the majority don't want to work and mess about ( in my high school I'v seen a few teachers cry and quit there jobs due to students).
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Re social sciences: can you teach sociology if your degree is in psychology and vice versa?

The reason I ask is before I take that big step into teacher training I am weighing up whether to do a psychology masters in the hope of having a subject that I believe will open doors for me in fe (my current potential fe subject at the moment is beauty therapy because fe doesn't do food tech and I don't think I could do music or drama).

Are many fe contracts casual hours? Is it more competitive than secondary school? Oh and are part time jobs more likely in fe? (I think I would actually prefer this!)

I am certain I'd be happier teaching in fe than school but I've been advised to train in a secondary pgce to keep my options open.
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Umm...i teach social sciences A level

Kids achieving
Helping them to see the world how it is and not how they are told it is
Witnessing when a kid understands something for themselves
Enabling them to get into uni/work
Banter with the kids
Banter in the staffroom, joking about we are just about hanging on in there
End of term drink ups

Lows
Increasingly manegerial management
Surveillance
Competition in FE sector
Working out of hours -don't do much if this anymore
Working way out of subject - or not have a job
Being part of a casualise workforce - common in fe these days
Not being paid over the holidays when hourly paid
Blagging through something you know nothing about but are being forced to teach
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Re social sciences: can you teach sociology if your degree is in psychology and vice versa?

The reason I ask is before I take that big step into teacher training I am weighing up whether to do a psychology masters in the hope of having a subject that I believe will open doors for me in fe (my current potential fe subject at the moment is beauty therapy because fe doesn't do food tech and I don't think I could do music or drama).

Are many fe contracts casual hours? Is it more competitive than secondary school? Oh and are part time jobs more likely in fe? (I think I would actually prefer this!)

I am certain I'd be happier teaching in fe than school but I've been advised to train in a secondary pgce to keep my options open.
What is your degree in?

The overlap between soc and psychology is overdone in my opinion.

i'm a sociologist who has taught psych, politics and economics - the overlap is much greater in the last two.

its better to teah out of subject with another teacher who is a specialist in that subject....or else you will get really stressed as you cannot know that new subject.

i don't understand the beauty and food tech comment - you have gcses in them?

to be honest fe is finished. tories cutting fe budget 25% this year. A levels will go...need a new job :-/
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BA Drama, MA Music, completing and MSc in food, NVQ 3s in nails and beauty, considering an MSc in Psychology to give me something that is more theory based than practical to teach (both because I enjoy the subject and because of the ergonomics of teaching practical vs theory).

My sensible head is telling me to do psychology for there being more teaching jobs out there in it (from my googling anyway!) but I am damn interested in sociology so want to check that I'm not ruling that out.

I'm also infuriated at how the tories cast fe aside

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What is your degree in?

The overlap between soc and psychology is overdone in my opinion.

i'm a sociologist who has taught psych, politics and economics - the overlap is much greater in the last two.

its better to teah out of subject with another teacher who is a specialist in that subject....or else you will get really stressed as you cannot know that new subject.

i don't understand the beauty and food tech comment - you have gcses in them?

to be honest fe is finished. tories cutting fe budget 25% this year. A levels will go...need a new job :-/
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BA Drama, MA Music, completing and MSc in food, NVQ 3s in nails and beauty, considering an MSc in Psychology to give me something that is more theory based than practical to teach (both because I enjoy the subject and because of the ergonomics of teaching practical vs theory).

My sensible head is telling me to do psychology for there being more teaching jobs out there in it (from my googling anyway!) but I am damn interested in sociology so want to check that I'm not ruling that out.

I'm also infuriated at how the tories cast fe aside

Ah, i see now

i enjoy psychology but for me the A level its a bit of a memory test...sociology is my first love, a lot more political. The only real overap at A level with psychology is research methods.

Yeah, jobs in these subjects. Much more likely to get a job in a school however. As i wrote FE is finished and sixth form jobs are at a premium.
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training courses like beauty/hairdressing and food tech are quite big in FE.

I'd get a secondary PGCE, gives you more options
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Thanks I could teach cooking as a life skills type course I suppose but I'm not a trained chef so couldn't train others in that.

A lot of the people who taught me beauty are back working on makeup counters

I was so determined to do ptlls/dtlls a few years ago but yeah pgce secondary sounds safer.

I'm thinking that if a lot of people aren't happy in a secondary school re behaviour etc then fe is seen as an upgrade. I'm sure it's not perfect but I've always thought of it like that.

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training courses like beauty/hairdressing and food tech are quite big in FE.

I'd get a secondary PGCE, gives you more options
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Thanks I could teach cooking as a life skills type course I suppose but I'm not a trained chef so couldn't train others in that.

A lot of the people who taught me beauty are back working on makeup counters

I was so determined to do ptlls/dtlls a few years ago but yeah pgce secondary sounds safer.

I'm thinking that if a lot of people aren't happy in a secondary school re behaviour etc then fe is seen as an upgrade. I'm sure it's not perfect but I've always thought of it like that.

Lifeskills are being killed. Tories don't care for the disabled.

Pttls /dttls is a waste of time imo...though those with them are being promoted way beyond their ability in FE as 'teaching mentors '...
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Teaching is a wonderful career; every day is different.

It's tiring and you get the normal 'you only work 9 to 3' crowd but, yes, I can highly recommend it.

Good time management means you can minimise work you take home but you will still work long hours. Preparing lessons, marking, reports, meetings and all the admin are vital if you are going to be a good teacher. It does become easier after a few years but a good school will support you at the start of your career.

I love seeing students develop as people as well as mathematicians ... good teachers change lives for the better.
Thank you so much for this encouraging and honest account. I'm set to start the PGCE this September, and though I'm hugely excited - teaching has always been my passion - as it creeps forward I'm becoming increasingly anxious, primarily because of the doom-filled warning teachers and trainee teachers keep giving me (not to mention the horror stories in the media). As somebody with so much passion for it, it's even giving me doubts.

One such example from last week, I met a friend of my friend's at a house party and the conversation went something like this:

"It's really hard, I wouldn't recommend it"
"Thanks but I'm determined to work hard. I'm really excited!"
"No, I mean it's really hard. It's rubbish"
"Right.. but..."
"No. Really, really hard"
"I'm looking forward to the cha-"
"Really hard"
"Okay, I think I got your point"

It's confusing because I've never really known a career path where so many are so determined to scare off the new guys. That's not a jab at teachers, and I'm sure the workload is challenging, tiresome, and the system will get you down. But really... what worthwhile career path doesn't have those negatives? Right now I feel gullible, despite my research and experience in schools, I feel like a whole score of teachers are laughing at me like "Poor fool! She doesn't even know".

So thank you once again, you've made me feel slightly better
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Thank you so much for this encouraging and honest account. I'm set to start the PGCE this September, and though I'm hugely excited - teaching has always been my passion - as it creeps forward I'm becoming increasingly anxious, primarily because of the doom-filled warning teachers and trainee teachers keep giving me (not to mention the horror stories in the media). As somebody with so much passion for it, it's even giving me doubts.

One such example from last week, I met a friend of my friend's at a house party and the conversation went something like this:

"It's really hard, I wouldn't recommend it"
"Thanks but I'm determined to work hard. I'm really excited!"
"No, I mean it's really hard. It's rubbish"
"Right.. but..."
"No. Really, really hard"
"I'm looking forward to the cha-"
"Really hard"
"Okay, I think I got your point"

It's confusing because I've never really known a career path where so many are so determined to scare off the new guys. That's not a jab at teachers, and I'm sure the workload is challenging, tiresome, and the system will get you down. But really... what worthwhile career path doesn't have those negatives? Right now I feel gullible, despite my research and experience in schools, I feel like a whole score of teachers are laughing at me like "Poor fool! She doesn't even know".

So thank you once again, you've made me feel slightly better
As long as your teaching in a school where people actually want to learn e.g. grammar schools or high -mid achieving schools I'm sure you'll love the job, but if your put in a low achieving school with students from really deprived areas, then make sure your emotionally ready for verbal abuse and constant shouting to get students attention. I have seen way too many teachers cry and quit there job in my high school, only the ones which can show moderate or high level of fear survive in them kind of environments
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As long as your teaching
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if your put in a
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make sure your emotionally ready
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in them kind of environments
I really hope you're not an English teacher.
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I really hope you're not an English teacher.
When did I mention I'm a english teacher or a teacher at all, seriously your coming off as a jerk and who checks there spellings on a forum , its insufficient. I was just giving advise from what I have seen as a student from multiple underachieving high schools and what to expect so she doesn't go in thinking its going to be a bubbly environment which is not true in all cases. Have you not seen the recent Tough Young Teachers on BBC 3, it actually matchers what I have seen in real life but actually the students in that show were not as bad compared to some places.

EDIT: Also I want to clarify I did not mean everyone from deprived areas in low achieving schools are mess abouts because thats not true, but its no secret that many of these schools have higher proportion of people who just want to have fun and not work in there lessons.
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seriously your coming off as a jerk.
Was that one on purpose?

Were you seriously expecting to make that many errors on a forum full of teachers and not have someone pick up on it?
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Was that one on purpose?

Were you seriously expecting to make that many errors on a forum full of teachers and not have someone to pick up on it?
Don't tell me you're a teacher, no wonder the educational system is going down hill, people with your attitude and patronising comments don't deserve to be teachers, teachers are supposed to be kind, compassionate and motivating , which doesn't seem to be coming across and therefore people like you shouldn't be working with children and shaping peoples lives, sorry if I'm wrong but it doesn't seem like you got into teaching for the right reasons, which is why I want to go into teaching so people know they got someone who actually cares about their education & lives and not some stuck up person who just there to get there pay check and can't even teach , I think you need to look in the mirror and grow up, I'm not going to comment anymore on your stupidity and immature behaviour
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Don't tell me you're a teacher, no wonder the educational system is going down hill, people with your attitude and patronising comments don't deserve to be teachers, teachers are supposed to be kind, compassionate and motivating , which doesn't seem to be coming across and therefore people like you shouldn't be working with children and shaping peoples lives, sorry if I'm wrong but it doesn't seem like you got into teaching for the right reasons, which is why I want to go into teaching so people know they got someone who actually cares about their education & lives and not some stuck up person who just there to get there pay check and can't even teach , I think you need to look in the mirror and grow up, I'm not going to comment anymore on your stupidity and immature behaviour
Well, I could point out that if you have such a thin skin that being corrected on your grammar is enough for you to start throwing around ad hominim remarks, baseless assumptions, and the prejudice-laden phrase: "people like you", then teaching probably isn't for you either.
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Don't tell me you're a teacher, no wonder the educational system is going down hill, people with your attitude and patronising comments don't deserve to be teachers, teachers are supposed to be kind, compassionate and motivating , which doesn't seem to be coming across and therefore people like you shouldn't be working with children and shaping peoples lives, sorry if I'm wrong but it doesn't seem like you got into teaching for the right reasons, which is why I want to go into teaching so people know they got someone who actually cares about their education & lives and not some stuck up person who just there to get there pay check and can't even teach , I think you need to look in the mirror and grow up, I'm not going to comment anymore on your stupidity and immature behaviour
If you're aiming to be a teacher then grammar really does need to be a focus - obviously there's time but it's a good habit to spell check your stuff, even on an internet forum.

However, if you have such a reaction to being called out on your grammar on a forum full of teachers, then, I feel like you could get a brutal shock when you enter the world of teaching.

You also have no idea why the original replier to your comment went into teaching and to say that they can't even teach is redundant when you have never seen them teach...
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You also have no idea why the original replier to your comment went into teaching and to say that they can't even teach is redundant when you have never seen them teach...
Angry people make wild, baseless assumptions in the desperate scramble to hurt people who have upset them.

Like you, I am rather concerned that someone who is this sensitive to criticism thinks teaching is the right job for them. If you take offence to being corrected, then not only is your training year going to be unpleasant for you, but you'll be sending completely the wrong message to your students: education is all about being comfortable to make mistakes and learn from them.

Of course, I could have been more tactful in my initial correction, but after a long day of delivering constant, patient positivity to my students, I think I can be forgiven for taking off my teaching hat and being slightly more blunt when it comes to interacting with other teachers (and potential teachers).
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If you're aiming to be a teacher than grammar really does need to be a focus - obviously there's time but it's a good habit to spell check your stuff, even on an internet forum.

However, if you have such a reaction to being called out on your grammar on a forum full of teachers, then, I feel like you could get a brutal shock when you enter the world of teaching.

You also have no idea why the original replier to your comment went into teaching and to say that they can't even teach is redundant when you have never seen them teach...
The bottom line is that I am aware that grammar is important when teaching, I'm fine with how you said that using good spelling all the time is a good habit as thats good advise, however I can not respect someone who feels the need to break down someones sentence down to give them a unnecessary snarky comment "I really hope you're not an English teacher." for no good reason for something which does not concern them at all and then further gives patronising comment. I can only judge that individual on the bases on how she/he been responding on this forum. I'm fully aware of the world of teaching, I have been observing and helping out in my old high school for several months and have been getting good advise from teachers who are passionate about their job. My opinion is always going to be if you act like the above user and make unnecessary and rude comments you shouldn't be a teacher.
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I can only judge that individual on the bases on how she/he been responding on this forum
It's a real problem if you feel you can make completely off-the-wall assumptions about people based on a single comment. This is why I despise the "people like you" mentality so much. And Samus and I were not kidding about the points concerning your sensitivity to criticism. If my comment was enough to get you so angry you had to unleash a torrent of wild and inaccurate assumptions about me, then I don't see how you're going to be able to cope with the constant (and very necessary and useful) criticism you will get as part of the process of learning to teach.
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I've been teaching for 6.5 years, and initially aspired to become a journalist. No regrets about choosing teaching in the end. Think ultimately I would have found journalism a shallow pursuit.
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