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    Labour lost due to:

    1) A fantastic, carefully calculated smear campaign by the Tories.
    2) An overwhelming majority of the newspapers pursuing a vitriolic campaign against the Labour Party. (Murdoch doing what he does best)
    3) Loss of working class votes as result of the scare tactics by the Tories and the media.

    Reason's why it's Labour's fault:
    1) No clear direction. Ed said he wanted to end centre-left legacy of the Labour Party, yet Labour agreed to further austerity. Made true socialists very angry switching to Green.
    2) They got a bit too brave against the wealthy elite. Mansion Tax, Non-dom rule being abolished, 50p tax rate.

    But I think the key reason Labour lost is that they did not defend their previous records in government enough. I have no doubt that a huge amount of working class people were duped into voting Conservative due the myth of "Labour wrecked the economy". A ridiculous amount of people believed Labour caused the global financial crisis, just look at that question time audience. Ed Miliband should have done his utmost best to get rid of the myth that Labour single handedly wrecked the economy.

    The furthest Ed Miliband went was "we gave the banks too much freedom". Should have elaborated more, praised Gordon Brown for the bailout like Paul Krugman did. He should have also challenged criticism of Labour's government spending (Which the Tories backed until 2008). Ed Miliband failed to challenge the delusion austerity. The electorate was conned into thinking thats the only way for economic prosperity. Tories tricked the electorate into thinking "balanced books = good economy". Nonsense. Economics is more than balanced books, and running a budget deficit for the welfare of the citizens is a normal thing to do. Tories are living in cuckoo land if they think they'll eliminate the budget deficit.
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    My list of reasons why I think Labour lost-

    1) They didn't get enough seats.
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    I think labour lost a lot of votes because people simply didn't like him, which is stupid because I know people who agreed with labour's policies but voted someone else cos they didn't like miliband
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    Labour has turned their backs on white british working class families, minorites aren't enough to be their core vote.
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    (Original post by ChoccyPhilly)
    I think labour lost a lot of votes because people simply didn't like him, which is stupid because I know people who agreed with labour's policies but voted someone else cos they didn't like miliband
    This exactly. You'd think it's a presidential campaign with all these personal attacks. People will say "but David Cameron was also attacked". True. But any person present in the UK for the last 5 years for will know how disproportionately Ed was vilified by the press.
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    (Original post by swagyolo420)
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    Even if Labour got half the Scottish votes, they would be no way near a majority. Losses in England were the key, especially in marginal seats. Can't blame the SNP, they did their job. Labour failed to do theirs.
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    Labour was too far on the left - it operates much more successfully in the centre of politics. Their mansion tax, non-Dom policies made them seem angry and resentful rather than the welcoming, inclusive party that Blair lead to victory three times.
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    There are different perspective to this.
    1. British people voted conservative cuz they are done with labour and its policies.
    2. Conservative rigged the election. Farage claiming earlier in bbc debate that real people are at home. Cameroon not wanting to debate miliband face to face. Then comes stupidly Shocking result, a majority win lol.

    3. This is a game.

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    (Original post by Hippysnake)
    My list of reasons why I think Labour lost-

    1) They didn't get enough seats.
    Talking about the factors which enabled the loss, Sherlock!
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    (Original post by swagyolo420)
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    Even if every seat in Scotland went to Labour, they still would have been trounced by the Conservatives in England and the result would be the same.

    Labour lost because they failed to inspire the electorate in the UK, not just Scotland.


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    I think its because of the 56 seats lost to the SNP
    also, lots of defected lib dem supporters voted Torie
    PLussss, a rise in minor parties, like UKIP.
    The working class has got quite a few options that are not solely labour, so their vote waned out.
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    (Original post by Koolio)
    This exactly. You'd think it's a presidential campaign with all these personal attacks. People will say "but David Cameron was also attacked". True. But any person present in the UK for the last 5 years for will know how disproportionately Ed was vilified by the press.
    People would rather an eloquent liar than Ed, who had good ideas but failed to engage the audience. Also, you're right. The ad hominem attacks on miliband is sad and shows how much people are interested in the personality of the people rather than what they represent
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    (Original post by ChoccyPhilly)
    People would rather an eloquent liar than Ed, who had good ideas but failed to engage the audience. Also, you're right. The ad hominem attacks on miliband is sad and shows how much people are interested in the personality of the people rather than what they represent
    It wasn't Ed, the Labour party has forgotten their roots and what they really stand for, the party has been hijacked by middle class socialites. Why do they continue to support ridiculous sums of cash going away to foreign aid if they apprently care about the NHS and poor people?
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    (Original post by Labour BTFO)
    It wasn't Ed, the Labour party has forgotten their roots and what they really stand for, the party has been hijacked by middle class socialites. Why do they continue to support ridiculous sums of cash going away to foreign aid if they apprently care about the NHS and poor people?
    Compassion? For the most part, their policies seemed congruent with their roots
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    (Original post by Labour BTFO)
    Labour has turned their backs on white british working class families, minorites aren't enough to be their core vote.
    Any mention of "British people first" would be a fatality. But I see where you're coming from, UKIP took votes from both the right and left.
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    socialism does not work when you run out of other peoples money? or when the banks collapse and you need to bail them out?
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    socialism does not work when you run out of other peoples money? or when the banks collapse and you need to bail them out?
    Well the current system isn't really working for the lowest denominators
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    Firstly I think that they were a bit far left. The traditional working class isn't as it used to be and any party needs the support of the middle classes especially the lower-middle class type of person, who would have a comfortable but modest income and own their own home etc. Tony Blair appealed to these people with great success, but since Blair popularity has been down.

    Also worth noting that a significant part of Labour's campaign was built around personality attacks and branding the Tories as out of touch and only looking out for the rich. Whilst staunch lefties might believe this, the majority of the public feel the tories are a stable and reliable alternative (as evidenced by their voting) and so these jibes served only to cheapen Labour's efforts.

    Thirdly they were a bit to cosy with the SNP - partly Nicola Sturgeon's fault for her comments but also Milliband's fault for not stopping the rumours. Many would be alarmed at the idea of a coalition formed with almost 60 SNP members, as it is apparent that they are there to represent Scotland's interests and quite possibly at the expense of England. Policies such as scrapping Trident may have added to public concern.

    So I feel Labour were a bit too far left, thus avoiding the huge centre-ground voters. They resorted to personality and identity rather than big positive policies that captured people's imagination. They were too strongly associated with the SNP which voters would be concerned might represent a conflict of interest in any future coalition. Therefore people saw the Conservatives as a safer, more reliable alternative that has sorted out "Labour's" mess with reasonable success and would continue bringing positive change.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    socialism does not work when you run out of other peoples money? or when the banks collapse and you need to bail them out?
    Did you believe the "There's no money left" note, which was just an office joke from a departing minister? Bailing out the banks was the most sensible thing to do, which Gordon Brown does not receive enough credit for.
 
 
 

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