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    Hi all,

    I've studied and completed a FdSc and have graduated last month. I decided not to continue with HE and do my BSc due to a number of factors - Future employment being one of them.

    In the past 3 months I have applied for at least 23 jobs. Out of those applications, I've been to 7 interviews and have been unsuccessful in all of them. I'm continuing applying for jobs at least 2-3 per week and I've found that applying for jobs, is in itself, a full time job. A detailed cover letter will take me at least 2-3 hours, tailoring my CV to suit the specific job will take me 1-2 hours and if there's any further application requirements for the job that will at least take me another hour or so.

    To cut to the point, I've been working part time since the age of 16 on Nat minimum wage. Recently my parents have been constantly on my case regrading getting a job. I've applied for retail jobs in customer service such as Farmfoods, Teso and Aldi only to get my application rejected in the initial recruiting phase. I've been as far as 60 miles for job interviews, i literally cannot try any harder than I am now. My parents just don't understand the economy or recruitment processes in today's society. My dad went straight down the mines at the age of 17 and was earning decent money by the time he was 20. How can i physically or visually explain to them that this may take up to a year?

    As funny as this isn't i'm sure this is how my parents see a recruitment process:

    1. See's job advertisement attached to a lamppost for an Airline Pilot
    2. Writes down phone number, then goes to pay phone to enquire
    3. Gets invited to interview on the day
    4. Goes to informal interview and gets asked "How do planes fly" replies back saying "By magic"
    5. Gets job offer on the day
    6. Goes and buys a Ford Escort for £80
    7. 2 days later, company papers come - Signs them and posts them back
    8. Day after gets start date - Next week
    9. Goes to airport in Ford Escort
    10. Flies plane to Palma and back and earns first wage (cash in hand).
    *35 years down the line tells son "How hard can it be" to get a job.
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    (Original post by wowk)
    Hi all,

    I've studied and completed a FdSc and have graduated last month. I decided not to continue with HE and do my BSc due to a number of factors - Future employment being one of them.

    In the past 3 months I have applied for at least 23 jobs. Out of those applications, I've been to 7 interviews and have been unsuccessful in all of them. I'm continuing applying for jobs at least 2-3 per week and I've found that applying for jobs, is in itself, a full time job. A detailed cover letter will take me at least 2-3 hours, tailoring my CV to suit the specific job will take me 1-2 hours and if there's any further application requirements for the job that will at least take me another hour or so.

    To cut to the point, I've been working part time since the age of 16 on Nat minimum wage. Recently my parents have been constantly on my case regrading getting a job. I've applied for retail jobs in customer service such as Farmfoods, Teso and Aldi only to get my application rejected in the initial recruiting phase. I've been as far as 60 miles for job interviews, i literally cannot try any harder than I am now. My parents just don't understand the economy or recruitment processes in today's society. My dad went straight down the mines at the age of 17 and was earning decent money by the time he was 20. How can i physically or visually explain to them that this may take up to a year?

    As funny as this isn't i'm sure this is how my parents see a recruitment process:

    1. See's job advertisement attached to a lamppost for an Airline Pilot
    2. Writes down phone number, then goes to pay phone to enquire
    3. Gets invited to interview on the day
    4. Goes to informal interview and gets asked "How do planes fly" replies back saying "By magic"
    5. Gets job offer on the day
    6. Goes and buys a Ford Escort for £80
    7. 2 days later, company papers come - Signs them and posts them back
    8. Day after gets start date - Next week
    9. Goes to airport in Ford Escort
    10. Flies plane to Palma and back and earns first wage (cash in hand).
    *35 years down the line tells son "How hard can it be" to get a job.
    It might be worth getting your CV & covering letters reviewed and seeing if you can get any interview practice because you could well be missing a trick.
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    You are having a lot of applications turned down. Is your CV and covering letters really reflecting the criteria of the job and the job description with relevant examples?

    If I was I would have someone check your CV. Your old university where you did your foundation degree may even have an employability service which checks them after you graduate.

    Have you asked for feedback from the interviews? Tried having mock interviews?


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    as you might guess I'm a parent. The sort of teenage exaggeration in your post could be why they aren't impressed by your job efforts. This doesn't necessarily have to take a year - in 3 months I'd expect you to apply for more than 23 jobs. Apply for more jobs and either you will get one or you will show how hard you are trying. Extend the range of jobs you consider.

    You are getting interviews so your CV and covering letters can't be too bad but if you got someone else (even your parents) to look them over maybe they could be polished up. You may just need more time, you may be able to improve your interview technique. When I was interviewing the fact that you had left eduction would make me wonder if you would easily give up on your work. I'd be questioning you quite hard about that.
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    (Original post by wowk)
    Hi all,

    I've studied and completed a FdSc and have graduated last month. I decided not to continue with HE and do my BSc due to a number of factors - Future employment being one of them.

    In the past 3 months I have applied for at least 23 jobs. Out of those applications, I've been to 7 interviews and have been unsuccessful in all of them. I'm continuing applying for jobs at least 2-3 per week and I've found that applying for jobs, is in itself, a full time job. A detailed cover letter will take me at least 2-3 hours, tailoring my CV to suit the specific job will take me 1-2 hours and if there's any further application requirements for the job that will at least take me another hour or so.

    To cut to the point, I've been working part time since the age of 16 on Nat minimum wage. Recently my parents have been constantly on my case regrading getting a job. I've applied for retail jobs in customer service such as Farmfoods, Teso and Aldi only to get my application rejected in the initial recruiting phase. I've been as far as 60 miles for job interviews, i literally cannot try any harder than I am now. My parents just don't understand the economy or recruitment processes in today's society. My dad went straight down the mines at the age of 17 and was earning decent money by the time he was 20. How can i physically or visually explain to them that this may take up to a year?

    As funny as this isn't i'm sure this is how my parents see a recruitment process:

    1. See's job advertisement attached to a lamppost for an Airline Pilot
    2. Writes down phone number, then goes to pay phone to enquire
    3. Gets invited to interview on the day
    4. Goes to informal interview and gets asked "How do planes fly" replies back saying "By magic"
    5. Gets job offer on the day
    6. Goes and buys a Ford Escort for £80
    7. 2 days later, company papers come - Signs them and posts them back
    8. Day after gets start date - Next week
    9. Goes to airport in Ford Escort
    10. Flies plane to Palma and back and earns first wage (cash in hand).
    *35 years down the line tells son "How hard can it be" to get a job.
    If it's a full time job, why is your application less than 1 every 3 days? If you're spending 6 hours a day on applications for example, you should be applying to at least 1 a day - especially now you are further down the line and don't have to 'think' too much for certain generic questions.


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    However, the original post was about dealing with parents! It sounds like they aren't really helping because they don't understand the current jobs market. It would be great if they could help with your job seeking efforts rather than complaining about you not having one. Maybe they feel as helpless as you in this situation: It was possible in the past, sometimes, for parents to ask for a job for their child, and I don't expect they can offer you that help.
    It does sound like you need to work on your interview technique. Could they help you to practice? I bet your dad could role-play as a belligerent interviewer! I agree with the previous post about getting feedback too, particularly if you have an interview that you think has gone well - if you don't get the job it's useful to know why so you can do something different next time.
    Good luck with your job hunt 😀.


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    (Original post by wowk)
    Hi all,

    I've studied and completed a FdSc and have graduated last month. I decided not to continue with HE and do my BSc due to a number of factors - Future employment being one of them.

    In the past 3 months I have applied for at least 23 jobs. Out of those applications, I've been to 7 interviews and have been unsuccessful in all of them. I'm continuing applying for jobs at least 2-3 per week and I've found that applying for jobs, is in itself, a full time job. A detailed cover letter will take me at least 2-3 hours, tailoring my CV to suit the specific job will take me 1-2 hours and if there's any further application requirements for the job that will at least take me another hour or so.

    To cut to the point, I've been working part time since the age of 16 on Nat minimum wage. Recently my parents have been constantly on my case regrading getting a job. I've applied for retail jobs in customer service such as Farmfoods, Teso and Aldi only to get my application rejected in the initial recruiting phase. I've been as far as 60 miles for job interviews, i literally cannot try any harder than I am now. My parents just don't understand the economy or recruitment processes in today's society. My dad went straight down the mines at the age of 17 and was earning decent money by the time he was 20. How can i physically or visually explain to them that this may take up to a year?

    As funny as this isn't i'm sure this is how my parents see a recruitment process:

    1. See's job advertisement attached to a lamppost for an Airline Pilot
    2. Writes down phone number, then goes to pay phone to enquire
    3. Gets invited to interview on the day
    4. Goes to informal interview and gets asked "How do planes fly" replies back saying "By magic"
    5. Gets job offer on the day
    6. Goes and buys a Ford Escort for £80
    7. 2 days later, company papers come - Signs them and posts them back
    8. Day after gets start date - Next week
    9. Goes to airport in Ford Escort
    10. Flies plane to Palma and back and earns first wage (cash in hand).
    *35 years down the line tells son "How hard can it be" to get a job.
    It might help for them to understand better the current situation with unemployment, how you have to be better qualified for a jobs these day,s how competitive jobs are, etc.
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    the original post was about dealing with parents - the best way to do that is to show that you are considering where you are going wrong and trying to improve. That means more job applications and seeking advice, even if you don't subsequently take it.

    If the father was a miner he's probably also got experience of being made redundant and having to find other work. If he hasn't he will have friends who have. So the parents are unlikely to be as clueless as ths sugests. They will know that the way to find work is to submit a lot of applicatons and take voluntary work if necessary to gain experience.
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    How old are you? If >18 you can safely disregard anything and everything your parents say. Why do you even care if they are 'on your case'? Tell them to mind their own business.
 
 
 

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