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    I was having a political conversation with my drum teacher the other day and he correctly guessed that I had voted for the Labour party. He told me that he did too when he was my age, and that the older you get, the more likely you are to vote Tory. I disagreed instantly, and although I didn't say it at the time, I don't think that it is like that at all. The more money you earn over time, however, could play a key role in your political beliefs. Does anybody agree with me or find this interesting? Or is this another misconception?
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    well I'm a poor 21 year old student, first general election and I voted UKIP so...
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    Maybe at the far end of the income scale it makes sense to vote Tory for financial reasons, but we're talking top 1% if that, not enough to have significant and general effect on the whole population's voting preference.
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    If you vote selfishly, obviously.

    If not then I don't think it applies.

    I do however think that age is more influential.
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    (Original post by Yeezus)
    I was having a political conversation with my drum teacher the other day and he correctly guessed that I had voted for the Labour party. He told me that he did too when he was my age, and that the older you get, the more likely you are to vote Tory. I disagreed instantly, and although I didn't say it at the time, I don't think that it is like that at all. The more money you earn over time, however, could play a key role in your political beliefs. Does anybody agree with me or find this interesting? Or is this another misconception?
    Disagree.

    There's an old saying that goes along the lines of 'if you're not a socialist when your young then you lack a heart, and if you're not a conservative when you're older then you lack a brain.' Or words to those intent.

    We've heard an awful lot from labour supprters that the Conservative party only look after the super rich. (About 1% of the population. This is just a sound bite.They have a majority now because the majority votd for who best looks after them.

    There's plenty of working class right of centre people out there.
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    (Original post by Helloworld_95)
    Maybe at the far end of the income scale it makes sense to vote Tory for financial reasons, but we're talking top 1% if that, not enough to have significant and general effect on the whole population's voting preference.
    Track down the YouTube clip by Milton Friedman called the Robin Hood myth. No political party represents the top 1% of wealthy people. Every party needs that group to pay for everything.
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    I think it's more the case that as you get older you become more pragmatic. A wonderful NHS that treats everything and everyone with the latest drugs and equipment and education that gives everyone as much free education as they want are laudable aims but in reality so expensive that people simply won't pay the amount of tax necessary to fund them. Similarly with bankers and other high earners - a lot of older people think they are paid too much and get away with murder. However, they also recognise that they pay the majority of taxes in the UK and, like it or not, rich business owners tend to employ a lot of other people, so they tolerate it.
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    What people need to understand on TSR is there are 2 sides to Conservatism. There are the Thatcherites who follow Neo-Liberalism and then there are the Libertarians who believe in a genuine free market.

    Your find that a lot of Conservatives currently hate the way the Tory party is ran because there is a strong degree of Crony Capitalism in Britain. Most Libertarian like myself want to see a complete deregulation of the banking sector and allow the banks to fail if they did the same thing as before which caused the financial crisis.

    I personally feel the way that Gordon Brown loaned the Banks the money to save them was a betrayal of the British people. There should of been a condition to stop Banks from leaving the UK 10-20 years after they received the money. Now we have a HSBC exit.

    Don't just think us Lefty Libertarians care nothing about the economy because there are those of us who feel like water boarding Ed Millband and Gordon Brown.
    I don't believe in only the rich vote Tory. You vote Tory if you want to put business first. And lets face it. We nearly ended up like Greece. That is why the Labour party won't be trusted for a long time.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
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    There's an old saying that goes along the lines of 'if you're not a socialist when your young then you lack a heart, and if you're not a conservative when you're older then you lack a brain.' Or words to those intent.
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    I hate that saying. All ot does is attempt to shut down the young as stupid and naive for being left wing.


    The truth is that as you get older you become more (note small c) conservative. You have a vested interest in keeping things the same (house prices, pensions, etc) and you become more set in your ways, holding more strongly to accepted wisdom. With accepted wisdom comes an aversion to new ideas and hence a reluctance to change.
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    (Original post by mojojojo101)
    I hate that saying. All ot does is attempt to shut down the young as stupid and naive for being left wing.


    The truth is that as you get older you become more (note small c) conservative. You have a vested interest in keeping things the same (house prices, pensions, etc) and you become more set in your ways, holding more strongly to accepted wisdom. With accepted wisdom comes an aversion to new ideas and hence a reluctance to change.
    You can hate that saying all you want, but it does have an air of truth to it.

    I used to believe in socialist principals when I was younger, but as I got older, started to work and earn money, pay taxes and experience life I kept on observing people sitting on their stars doing nothing constructive to society and espousing an entitlement philosophy to life.

    I experienced disabled people who wouldn't let their disability get in the way of a fruitful life. Yet also experienced people using mild ailments as an exacuse not to work.

    I experienced working hard to better myself, and seeing my efforts rewarded by comments about why bother.

    Your belief systems change with your life experience. You may not like it, but that's the truth.

    Stop listening to the rhetoric and make your own mind up. That's why I voted conservative even though I'm from a staunch labour background. It's no mistake that your staunch labour supporting areas in the UK seem to be the most unproductive in the UK. They've lost the ability to aspire.
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    people in this country feel that they being robbed, raped, pillaged, bummed, buggered, skewered by scots, disabled, romanians, poles, scroungers, welfare queens, benefits fraudsters, mafia. That's basically all there is to it.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    You can hate that saying all you want, but it does have an air of truth to it.

    I used to believe in socialist principals when I was younger, but as I got older, started to work and earn money, pay taxes and experience life I kept on observing people sitting on their stars doing nothing constructive to society and espousing an entitlement philosophy to life.

    I experienced disabled people who wouldn't let their disability get in the way of a fruitful life. Yet also experienced people using mild ailments as an exacuse not to work.

    I experienced working hard to better myself, and seeing my efforts rewarded by comments about why bother.

    Your belief systems change with your life experience. You may not like it, but that's the truth.

    Stop listening to the rhetoric and make your own mind up. That's why I voted conservative even though I'm from a staunch labour background. It's no mistake that your staunch labour supporting areas in the UK seem to be the most unproductive in the UK. They've lost the ability to aspire.

    My argument against the statement in question is not its general theme, just the reasons it gives. It assumes, firstly that young people are inherently stupid, secondly, that only stupid people are socialists. Can you not see
    how that is just a way to shut down a particular point of view?

    Have you assumed I'm a Labour.supporter because I sure as hell am not. They Labour party are a joke. I consider myself to be a revolutionary anarchist and advocate a total revolution in the entirety of human society.
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    (Original post by mojojojo101)
    My argument against the statement in question is not its general theme, just the reasons it gives. It assumes, firstly that young people are inherently stupid, secondly, that only stupid people are socialists. Can you not see
    how that is just a way to shut down a particular point of view?

    Have you assumed I'm a Labour.supporter because I sure as hell am not. They Labour party are a joke. I consider myself to be a revolutionary anarchist and advocate a total revolution in the entirety of human society.
    I didn't assume you we're a labour supporter. There's more fringes of left wing nuttiness out their than labour.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    I didn't assume you we're a labour supporter. There's more fringes of left wing nuttiness out their than labour.
    Ah yes, I am always beaten with that stick, normally by people who are too pigheaded to accept there are alternatives outside of the pre-existing Westminster dynamic.
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    (Original post by mojojojo101)
    I hate that saying. All ot does is attempt to shut down the young as stupid and naive for being left wing.
    They are, mostly.

    (Original post by mojojojo101)
    Have you assumed I'm a Labour.supporter because I sure as hell am not. They Labour party are a joke. I consider myself to be a revolutionary anarchist and advocate a total revolution in the entirety of human society.
    Indeed you're kinda making the point for us here.
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    The richer you are the more likely to vote Tory, reason= Tax Breaks.
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    (Original post by Yeezus)
    I was having a political conversation with my drum teacher the other day and he correctly guessed that I had voted for the Labour party. He told me that he did too when he was my age, and that the older you get, the more likely you are to vote Tory. I disagreed instantly, and although I didn't say it at the time, I don't think that it is like that at all. The more money you earn over time, however, could play a key role in your political beliefs. Does anybody agree with me or find this interesting? Or is this another misconception?
    What if your'e also just stating your career? You kind of want to keep the money you work hard for.
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    They are, mostly.



    Indeed you're kinda making the point for us here.
    Why?
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    What people need to understand on TSR is there are 2 sides to Conservatism. There are the Thatcherites who follow Neo-Liberalism and then there are the Libertarians who believe in a genuine free market.

    Your find that a lot of Conservatives currently hate the way the Tory party is ran because there is a strong degree of Crony Capitalism in Britain. Most Libertarian like myself want to see a complete deregulation of the banking sector and allow the banks to fail if they did the same thing as before which caused the financial crisis.
    I'm very surprised to discover that you've been a libertarian all this time - but I completely agree with you.
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    (Original post by LivngForSummer)
    The richer you are the more likely to vote Tory, reason= Tax Breaks.
    And yet the richest in the UK are paying more tax now than under the last labour government.

    Even the nationalist socialist SNP are promoting tax cuts.
 
 
 
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