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    Interesting essay from Robert Halfon MP, who has just been appointed Deputy Chair of the Conservative Party. He is very pro-trade union, arguing that they are voluntary capitalist organisations (they essentially compete with the state for influence, they provide services like private health insurance, they seek to protect the individual rights of their members).

    He says that the Conservative Party has, for too long, taken a punitive approach to the unions for petty political rather than sound, logical reasons, and they should try to work with them (and as he points out, Margaret Thatcher was a very active trade unionist)

    http://www.demos.co.uk/files/Demos_T...pdf?1331832836

    In politics, language is everything. When Conservativesbash the trade unions, the effect is to demonise not justmilitancy, but every trade union member, and numerous publicsector workers too.Too often our criticism, which is aimed at extremists,makes no distinction between the undeserving and the How can Conservatives embrace the trade union movement?

    The Conservative party’s language is seen notjust as anti-Bob Crow et al, but anti-trade unions as a whole.Recent debates in the House of Commons on facility time,for example, have become an excuse for blood lust againstthe trade union movement. We Conservatives have become apastiche of ourselves.

    A huge part of rebuilding our party’s relationswith the trade unions must be to change our language.Conservatives should not be afraid to praise the unionmovement, to encourage people to become trade unionists,and even perhaps to have the occasional beer and sandwichwith trade union members. In our language the party shoulddistinguish between militants and those simply fighting forbetter pay and conditions. After all, what is wrong with that?Why shouldn’t trade unions represent the interests of membersin this way?
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    Can't see this thread degenerating into union bashing itself at all.....

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    There is a large difference between voluntary capitalist organisations and public sector unions which get state funding like the NUT.
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    (Original post by The_Mighty_Bush)
    There is a large difference between voluntary capitalist organisations and public sector unions which get state funding like the NUT.
    How exactly do they receive state funding? You mean by receiving facilities time which employers themselves are generally in favour of (and which the Tories tried to ban even in private companies who favoured it)? What right is it of the government to step in between a private organisation and a voluntary organisation and tell them what is appropriate in their relationship?

    And what of the ridiculous tying up of trade unions, all trade unions, in red tape and administrative burdens that do not apply to any other voluntary organisation? What does that have to do with funding?
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    (Original post by The_Mighty_Bush)
    between voluntary capitalist organisations and public sector unions
    And presumably you accept that most unions would meet your definition of voluntary capitalist organisation?
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    (Original post by MatthewParis)
    Interesting essay from Robert Halfon MP, who has just been appointed Deputy Chair of the Conservative Party. He is very pro-trade union, arguing that they are voluntary capitalist organisations (they essentially compete with the state for influence, they provide services like private health insurance, they seek to protect the individual rights of their members).

    He says that the Conservative Party has, for too long, taken a punitive approach to the unions for petty political rather than sound, logical reasons, and they should try to work with them (and as he points out, Margaret Thatcher was a very active trade unionist)

    http://www.demos.co.uk/files/Demos_T...pdf?1331832836
    Good on him.
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    Robert Halfon really is in the wrong party :lol:

    He will act as the counter balance in cabinet meetings. I'm not holding my breath here, but hopefully it is a sign that the Conservatives can one day return to the true One-Nation Tories that we saw in the 60s and 70s.
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    I've never had a problem with trade unions existing myself, individual liberty allows people to choose to collectively bargain if they wish. People power at the negotiation table is not a problem.

    My problem is largely with striking and the ideological motivations behind many strikes.

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    Find me a successful union that is not allied to Labour and does not partake in strikes and i'd consider it.
 
 
 
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