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    (Original post by Kittiara)
    That is a CT issue. Which you know, as a former mod.





    It is not the moderators sending these messages (MHoC or otherwise). It is done by the Community Team.

    (Original post by Illusionary)
    I'm sure that he does - but this thread is a general feedback thread, not one directed towards the mod team. It was you who chose to reply to it, rather than being compelled to do so.
    Entirely this.

    Kittiara, you chose to make yourself spokesperson. Don't insult my intelligence.
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    (Original post by TheBBQ)
    Eugh. How lovely.



    As Illusionary said, they are all moderators regardless.

    We really should be allowed to block moderators.
    Thanks for the love
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    (Original post by Illusionary)
    IIRC, you should be able to, but it won't take effect for any forums that they moderate. Edit: okay, having just tested, it seems that this is not now possible
    Yeah - apparently as a PS adviser I'm also un-ignorable :moon:
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    Yeah - apparently as a PS adviser I'm also un-ignorable :moon:
    So that explains it.


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    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    You can't. And I'm gutted that I never had chance to properly push for the CT to stop propping up the zombiefied corpse that is the TSR Wendy House of Commons.
    Vlad you're making an issue where there is none. A PM every six months is not spam. I would have no problem with people being able to ignore community messages, but attacking the MHoC in this way is totally over the top.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Vlad you're making an issue where there is none. A PM every six months is not spam. I would have no problem with people being able to ignore community messages, but attacking the MHoC in this way is totally over the top.
    Spam is defined as unwanted communication. I do not want this bull**** in my inbox - ergo, it is spam. And I'll attack the wendy house as much as I like, thank you.
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    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    Spam is defined as unwanted communication. I do not want this bull**** in my inbox - ergo, it is spam. And I'll attack the wendy house as much as I like, thank you.
    *has glorious mental image*




    I can't say I appreciate the random CT spam either - much prefer the random mod messages I get. :fan:
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    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    Spam is defined as unwanted communication. I do not want this bull**** in my inbox - ergo, it is spam. And I'll attack the wendy house as much as I like, thank you.
    So according to you, all PMs, forum and rep messages are spam unless you want to read them? Not the best or most workable definition in the world.
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    As a regular contributor in the place I support ending TSR-wide messages publicising the place, not because they are spam, but because my preferred party would do better come elections because we have a large member base.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    So according to you, all PMs, forum and rep messages are spam unless you want to read them? Not the best or most workable definition in the world.
    For PMs, yes. Forum and rep messages... you're making a poor straw man argument. The definition of spam is very clear.

    spam
    noun
    1.
    irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to large numbers of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.
    https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourc...fine%3A%20spam
    Adverts for the wendy house are irrelevant, unsolicited and are for the purposes of advertising. They're entirely unwanted and 99% of users that don't give a **** have no way of stopping it.
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    Thanks for the love
    You're alright but allow your posse in general
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    So according to you, all PMs, forum and rep messages are spam unless you want to read them? Not the best or most workable definition in the world.
    Tbf, there could be an option in the settings to "not receive emails from administrators" It's do-able in SOME vbulletin boards. I know of a few forums, that have that option, but otherwise yeah good point. I'm all for like peace and no hostility
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    As a regular contributor in the place I support ending TSR-wide messages publicising the place, not because they are spam, but because my preferred party would do better come elections because we have a large member base.
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    Christ.

    Nobody has even come close to demonstrating why the WHoC and WUN deserve special treatment over other larger, busier subcommunities. No other social group gets this kind of focus, publicity or special access. This has always been my biggest gripe with it. For whatever reason (Well... I do know the real reason... :rolleyes:), it's been provided with this golden pedestal, despite an endemic lack of activity or interest for the past 5+ years. And why is it so unpopular? It's very... niche, for starters, but it's also very unwelcoming, cliquey by design and requires a large amount of commitment over a long period of time to get anywhere with it. It's deluded to think that this is an attraction, and similarly, that you have a "large member base". :no:
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    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    For PMs, yes. Forum and rep messages... you're making a poor straw man argument. The definition of spam is very clear.


    Adverts for the wendy house are irrelevant, unsolicited and are for the purposes of advertising. They're entirely unwanted and 99% of users that don't give a **** have no way of stopping it.
    No I'm not. It is a fact that one can receive unwanted and/or unsolicited information through forum and rep messages as well as PMs. I have no interest in arguing this point with you.

    I do not accept that PMs asking users to vote in the MHoC are adverts. The PMs do not ask users to join the MHoC or get involved in any way other than to cast a vote. I have already said I agree that it would be nice for people to be able to block community messages, but I don't understand why you're making this a MHoC issue. If you don't like the MHoC then don't use it, simple.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    No I'm not. It is a fact that one can receive unwanted and/or unsolicited information through forum and rep messages as well as PMs. I have no interest in arguing this point with you.

    I do not accept that PMs asking users to vote in the MHoC are adverts. The PMs do not ask users to join the MHoC or get involved in any way other than to cast a vote. I have already said I agree that it would be nice for people to be able to block community messages, but I don't understand why you're making this a MHoC issue. If you don't like the MHoC then don't use it, simple.
    Snufkin, you disappoint me; this isn't ****ing rocket science.

    PM to raise publicity = marketing = advertising.
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    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    Snufkin, you disappoint me; this isn't ****ing rocket science.

    PM to raise publicity = marketing = advertising.
    I will try to bear your disappointment.
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    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    :rolleyes:

    Christ.

    Nobody has even come close to demonstrating why the WHoC and WUN deserve special treatment over other larger, busier subcommunities. No other social group gets this kind of focus, publicity or special access. This has always been my biggest gripe with it. For whatever reason (Well... I do know the real reason... :rolleyes:), it's been provided with this golden pedestal, despite an endemic lack of activity or interest for the past 5+ years. And why is it so unpopular? It's very... niche, for starters, but it's also very unwelcoming, cliquey by design and requires a large amount of commitment over a long period of time to get anywhere with it. It's deluded to think that this is an attraction, and similarly, that you have a "large member base". :no:
    I know it is niche, I know it is all of the things you describe it as, but I, along with others, enjoy playing the game. By large user base I refer to the people in the party compared to other parties who would be voting. However, while there is an audience for this kind of thing it can be left alone in its own corner until it naturally fizzles out.
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    Tbf, there could be an option in the settings to "not receive emails from administrators" It's do-able in SOME vbulletin boards. I know of a few forums, that have that option, but otherwise yeah good point. I'm all for like peace and no hostility
    Why not have an opt-in? For the two dozens or so people who actually pretend the MHoC is anything more than an online ego-trip or meaningless exercise in measuring each others' ignorance, then a mailing list should be offered, and this includes PMs. That should be pretty simple, no? The only other alternative is offering the same thing to each other group on TSR, which would mean bi-annual PMs from the CT asking everyone sitewide to vote for Arsenal's player of the year, among the hundreds of other groups.
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    (Original post by The_Internet)
    Tbf, there could be an option in the settings to "not receive emails from administrators" It's do-able in SOME vbulletin boards. I know of a few forums, that have that option, but otherwise yeah good point. I'm all for like peace and no hostility
    That used to be in the options on TSR but was removed at some point.
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    (Original post by TheBBQ)
    What? You're paid?! :lolwut:

    Good lord.
    I am not, no. The Community Team are. Mods are volunteers. The CT are staff.

    (Original post by Illusionary)
    Six months is a start, certainly, but still not really what should be possible - for all the reasons discussed earlier in the thread.
    As said, that is up to the CT. Sometimes they send mass-PMs. I receive some as well that I have no interest in. Doesn't annoy me, but I can understand that it might annoy others.

    (Original post by Arkasia)
    So you basically have a vested interest in stopping any dissent surrounding the MHoC?
    Not really. I know that we're the geeky corner of TSR. Well, there's the MUN of course. As said, I just wanted to reassure the OP that they should have peace and quiet from us for a while. As to messages stopping completely, that is out of my hands. So it was the most I could do at this moment in time.

    (Original post by Mad Vlad)
    Entirely this.

    Kittiara, you chose to make yourself spokesperson. Don't insult my intelligence.
    Wasn't trying to.
 
 
 
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