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    If the Lib Dems collapsed because they dropped most of their more left leaning policies to prop up a tory government, why did most Lib Dems voters flock to the conservatives? I'm seriously stuggling to understand wtf happened.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    If the Lib Dems collapsed because they dropped most of their more left leaning policies to prop up a tory government, why did most Lib Dems voters flock to the conservatives? I'm seriously stuggling to understand wtf happened.
    It seems to me that those happy with the coalition tended to crap themselves at the thought of genuine social democrats (SNP) being in power and backed the largest coalition partner to keep Labour out.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    If the Lib Dems collapsed because they dropped most of their more left leaning policies to prop up a tory government, why did most Lib Dems voters flock to the conservatives? I'm seriously struggling to understand wtf happened.
    This is what I've been pondering about as well!! I'd say one of the biggest reasons that people stopped supporting LD is coz of the tuition fees thing... but the Tories were the ones to actually implement that in the first place
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    (Original post by katemate98)
    This is what I've been pondering about as well!! I'd say one of the biggest reasons that people stopped supporting LD is coz of the tuition fees thing... but the Tories were the ones to actually implement that in the first place
    Don't you mean Labour?
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    (Original post by Quady)
    Don't you mean Labour?
    I mean the Tory's were the ones to raise it to £9k in the coalition
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    (Original post by katemate98)
    I mean the Tory's were the ones to raise it to £9k in the coalition
    Ah right.

    Based on the Browne report that Labour commissioned and said it'd implement.
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    (Original post by Quady)
    Ah right.

    Based on the Browne report that Labour commissioned and said it'd implement.
    I always thought it was funny that the NUS never put out fliers condemning Labour for this.

    Oh, wait...
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    (Original post by cBay)
    If the Lib Dems collapsed because they dropped most of their more left leaning policies to prop up a tory government, why did most Lib Dems voters flock to the conservatives? I'm seriously stuggling to understand wtf happened.
    Plenty of Lib Dems went to Labour.

    What happened was that the Conservatives had solid polling from key Lib Dem marginals showing that most Lib Dem voters ultimately preferred David Cameron over Ed Miliband as Prime Minister.

    With the left deserting the Lib Dems in droves, it was clear that voting for them was unsustainable. So they had to pick between the two.

    In many places, Labour picked up a lot of Lib Dem votes. They were either wasted, or actively helped the Conservatives, who were better placed.

    If you lived in a Lib Dem constituency with the Conservatives in a decent second place and the vote splits by, let's say - two-fifths stay Liberal, two-fifths go Labour and one-fifth go Tory - then there's every chance you'll still end up with the Conservative MP.

    It was a game of numbers, that someone had worked out and played. It only needed to work in certain areas, and it certainly didn't need the majority of ex-Lib Dem voters to go Tory.
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    (Original post by cBay)
    If the Lib Dems collapsed because they dropped most of their more left leaning policies to prop up a tory government, why did most Lib Dems voters flock to the conservatives? I'm seriously stuggling to understand wtf happened.
    It's far more complex than that. For example, in seats the Lib Dems held where they were up against Tories, in many cases they lost the seat because Labour supporters who tactically voted for them would not do that anymore.

    That's what happened in St. Ives. In 2005, every seat in Cornwall was Lib Dem. Now every seat is Conservative, because many of the people in Cornwall who traditionally vote Lib Dem to keep the Tories out discovered that it didn't make a difference.
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    The ones who went right wing (to cons) were probably terrified at SNP-Labour

    The ones who went left wing probably felt betrayed by Clegg's decision to go with the conservatives.

    I think everyone's a little shocked how badly they did and are struggling to explain it, but there are many reasons for their downfall
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    (Original post by MatthewParis)
    It's far more complex than that. For example, in seats the Lib Dems held where they were up against Tories, in many cases they lost the seat because Labour supporters who tactically voted for them would not do that anymore.

    That's what happened in St. Ives. In 2005, every seat in Cornwall was Lib Dem. Now every seat is Conservative, because many of the people in Cornwall who traditionally vote Lib Dem to keep the Tories out discovered that it didn't make a difference.
    It's tempting to think that in North Cornwall, it was UKIP who took the LibDem vote. Looking at the figures.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_C...s_in_the_2010s
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    Different puppets, same show...
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    (Original post by katemate98)
    This is what I've been pondering about as well!! I'd say one of the biggest reasons that people stopped supporting LD is coz of the tuition fees thing... but the Tories were the ones to actually implement that in the first place
    (Original post by cBay)
    If the Lib Dems collapsed because they dropped most of their more left leaning policies to prop up a tory government, why did most Lib Dems voters flock to the conservatives? I'm seriously stuggling to understand wtf happened.
    What you people fail to realise in the south especially there is more hatred towards Labour than there is Tories. Lib dem voters never forget what Labour did to this country. You are mixing liberalism with socialism. One can argue lib dems have more in common with Tories.
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    (Original post by The two eds)
    What you people fail to realise in the south especially there is more hatred towards Labour than there is Tories.
    :lol: Which must be why the North of England is overwhelmingly Labour?
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    (Original post by Quady)
    Don't you mean Labour?
    No I think anyone with an iota of cerebral power could discern that he meant Tories as he, uh, mentioned the Tories. Idiot
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    (Original post by MatthewParis)
    :lol: Which must be why the North of England is overwhelmingly Labour?
    To an extent it is if we are not talking about Scotland, it remains the bulk of Labour's seats. But Luckily UKIP have pushed into second up there and are close contenders.
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    (Original post by dolan m)
    No I think anyone with an iota of cerebral power could discern that he meant Tories as he, uh, mentioned the Tories. Idiot
    When did the Tories implement tuition fees? I thought that was Labour in '98? Then top up fees in '06...
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    (Original post by MatthewParis)
    :lol: Which must be why the North of England is overwhelmingly Labour?
    ....What?

    His comment clearly says the South.
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    (Original post by Inexorably)
    The ones who went right wing (to cons) were probably terrified at SNP-Labour

    The ones who went left wing probably felt betrayed by Clegg's decision to go with the conservatives.

    I think everyone's a little shocked how badly they did and are struggling to explain it, but there are many reasons for their downfall
    I think Paxman put it best after the exit poll.. 'if this exit poll is right then it looks like the Tories have basically eaten their coalition partners whole'.

    At least Clegg survived, the electorate thankfully rewarded his period in office with another 5 years as MP.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    At least Clegg survived, the electorate thankfully rewarded his period in office with another 5 years as MP.
    Whilst I'd like to agree, the reality is that Tories voted him in to keep labour out. The former Con candidate even wrote a letter telling them to!
 
 
 
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