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Hunting for necessity is fine. Hunting for sport is unnecessary cruelty. Let's keep the welfare of animals at a top priority.
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(Original post by demx9)
Hunting for necessity is fine. Hunting for sport is unnecessary cruelty. Let's keep the welfare of animals at a top priority.
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Hunting for necessity is fine. Hunting for sport is unnecessary cruelty. Let's keep the welfare of animals at a top priority.
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If the Tories spend their next term paying attention to stuff like this, they will be kaput, and the union will be gone.
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(Original post by demx9)
Hunting for necessity is fine. Hunting for sport is unnecessary cruelty. Let's keep the welfare of animals at a top priority.
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Hunting for necessity is fine. Hunting for sport is unnecessary cruelty. Let's keep the welfare of animals at a top priority.
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You live in a city don't you?
You live in a city don't you?
Are only country folk allowed to have an opinion on whether hunting a fox with a pack of dogs is ethical?
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How is that relevant?
Are only country folk allowed to have an opinion on whether hunting a fox with a pack of dogs is ethical?
How is that relevant?
Are only country folk allowed to have an opinion on whether hunting a fox with a pack of dogs is ethical?
I live in a city. I tend to find it difficult to express an opinion, let alone call for support on an issue that has no impact on me.
Let's be honest as well. It's the people who do the fox hunting you hate. Not the action.
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I tend to find that as the ban properly screwed over large sections of the society living and working in the country side to appease people who had to be bused into the areas to show their faux outrage, I think whether or not hunting impacts on you does depends where you live.
I live in a city. I tend to find it difficult to express an opinion, let alone call for support on an issue that has no impact on me.
Let's be honest as well. It's the people who do the fox hunting you hate. Not the action.
I tend to find that as the ban properly screwed over large sections of the society living and working in the country side to appease people who had to be bused into the areas to show their faux outrage, I think whether or not hunting impacts on you does depends where you live.
I live in a city. I tend to find it difficult to express an opinion, let alone call for support on an issue that has no impact on me.
Let's be honest as well. It's the people who do the fox hunting you hate. Not the action.
I volunteer with several conservation charities and they kill both foxes and deer so that other species can survive. There is a difference however with shooting an animal to protect a region or your livelihood or something and having an animal hunted and mauled by dogs for what amounts to a ritualised blood sport.
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Im a conservative supporter, and to be honest there are so many other things that are important over fox hunting.
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Nope it's definitely the action I hate.
I volunteer with several conservation charities and they kill both foxes and deer so that other species can survive. There is a difference however with shooting an animal to protect a region or your livelihood or something and having an animal hunted and mauled by dogs for what amounts to a ritualised blood sport.
Nope it's definitely the action I hate.
I volunteer with several conservation charities and they kill both foxes and deer so that other species can survive. There is a difference however with shooting an animal to protect a region or your livelihood or something and having an animal hunted and mauled by dogs for what amounts to a ritualised blood sport.
I'm glad you acknowledge that animals need culling, so I guess my concern is against the emotional fruitarian types
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If the Tories spend their next term paying attention to stuff like this, they will be kaput, and the union will be gone.
If the Tories spend their next term paying attention to stuff like this, they will be kaput, and the union will be gone.
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So will we be banning fishing and hawking too?
So will we be banning fishing and hawking too?
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Ritualised blood sport that employ d thousands and was more of a rallying cry for the same idiots we saw attacking police officers and defacing war memorials in London recently.
I'm glad you acknowledge that animals need culling, so I guess my concern is against the emotional fruitarian types
Ritualised blood sport that employ d thousands and was more of a rallying cry for the same idiots we saw attacking police officers and defacing war memorials in London recently.
I'm glad you acknowledge that animals need culling, so I guess my concern is against the emotional fruitarian types
It wasn't even an effective method of pest control, if it was that'd be something but it's like the Badger cull a lot of bluster over something that won't actually work to control a pest population, but farmers want it so we keep revisitng the same bloody issue every 10 or 20 years.
I'm a conservationist, i'm very aware that certain species need to be controlled but fox hunting didn't work and was needlessly cruel.
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I doubt most fox-hunters would cook and eat their prey after they catch it...
I doubt most fox-hunters would cook and eat their prey after they catch it...
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To be fair most of the old arguments I remember re: fox hunting have been shown to be a bit redundant. Everybody wondered what they'd do with all the dogs, the tradition, the horses, the show... well it's all still around, just the sport has changed to scent trails instead of actual foxes. Even the problem of foxes as a pest is suddenly less, it's hard to guard against them but because people now feel they have to, most coops are fairly fox-proof.
That and it's a barbaric method of controlling their numbers, I think it would be exceedingly regressive to bring back this one. Everybody is doing just fine without it, despite the claims that some hunts continue the practice unmonitored.
That and it's a barbaric method of controlling their numbers, I think it would be exceedingly regressive to bring back this one. Everybody is doing just fine without it, despite the claims that some hunts continue the practice unmonitored.
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