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    Hi, Im currently finishing my final year of Engineering Level3. We have had a struggle completing the work with 10 teachers leaving us! I have manged to complete units to my desired level. This week my school has hired back ( for this week only) one of my previous teachers, in a desperate measure to get a unit complete.
    I have work to bring home every night this week which so far has taken me to around 10 each night, Which is no big issue, this is my problem...
    I work for the Fast Food chain McDonalds, and i was given a shift this week for 16:30-22:15 I advertised this shift to other employees on monday (three days after being given this weeks shifts) this was as soon as i found out this weeks work load.
    I rang my boss telling him i will not be able to work whatsoever....
    I told him that my school work is more important than work, he understood that.
    He began to tell me that he still expects tosee me in (which i can understand). I frequently tried to tell him hat i cant attend, and that i have given him plenty of warning.
    Does anyone know what i can do, what my rights are he has threatend me with 'Further action'.
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    (Original post by RWD1997)
    Hi, Im currently finishing my final year of Engineering Level3. We have had a struggle completing the work with 10 teachers leaving us! I have manged to complete units to my desired level. This week my school has hired back ( for this week only) one of my previous teachers, in a desperate measure to get a unit complete.
    I have work to bring home every night this week which so far has taken me to around 10 each night, Which is no big issue, this is my problem...
    I work for the Fast Food chain McDonalds, and i was given a shift this week for 16:30-22:15 I advertised this shift to other employees on monday (three days after being given this weeks shifts) this was as soon as i found out this weeks work load.
    I rang my boss telling him i will not be able to work whatsoever....
    I told him that my school work is more important than work, he understood that.
    He began to tell me that he still expects tosee me in (which i can understand). I frequently tried to tell him hat i cant attend, and that i have given him plenty of warning.
    Does anyone know what i can do, what my rights are he has threatend me with 'Further action'.
    Is there definitely no way of you doing it? You could try and go in if at all possible.
    I was going to say phone in sick, but as you have already tried to get cover and tried to get out of doing the shift, that might look dodgy if you go and do that. If you hadnt tried to get out of the shift before then you could have.
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    I'm not too comfortable with ringing in sick I'd rather just be honest. If I was to go in it would be like 15 mins to half an hour. Which I told him on the phone
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    Say you will owe him a favour

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    Beg the other staff to do it.

    Oh wait, I just re-read its not one shift it's what? The whole week? 16:30 - 22:15 every day? Don't you have to give 2 weeks warning for time off? Can the others not cover you if you really beg them, if you manage to get people to cover will your boss be ok with it?
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    If you're on a zero hour contract you are not obligated to take hours offered to you just the same as the company is not obligated to offer you any hours. You are well within your rights to refuse this shift, although it may not go down well with your manager, any disciplinary action would be a breach of employment law.
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    Thank you, I will wait for the call tonight
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    Clue is in the name: 0 hours.

    Your manage needs to brush up on his employment law knowledge. Ring them and thank them for the offer of shifts but unfortunately you are already occupied.
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    Don't expect any hours then,
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Clue is in the name: 0 hours.

    Your manage needs to brush up on his employment law knowledge. Ring them and thank them for the offer of shifts but unfortunately you are already occupied.
    A couple of years ago I would have said this but since then I worked on a zero hours contract and in my contract there were extra clauses. It basically said that if I had been 'assigned' work (i.e. given my hours prior to turning up) then I was obligated to honor them and if the workload exceeded those hours I was obligated to complete the work past the hours specified. Now, I personally think that's despicable but I was bound by that contract and I don't know whether those clauses in the contract overruled the 'zero hours' or whether 'zero hours' was the overruling part. But you try to argue that with your manager/employer and it gets incredibly messy.

    Also, regardless of all that, I found that on a zero hours contract - when I turned down work they would 'punish' me by simply not providing me with any hours at all for the whole of the subsequent week. They weren't doing anything illegal so that got away with it.

    Personally, I'd politely tell them you're not working that shift and see what they say/do and then I'd look for another job because zero hours are exploitative (that's actually exactly what I've done tbh).
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    (Original post by somethingbeautiful)
    A couple of years ago I would have said this but since then I worked on a zero hours contract and in my contract there were extra clauses. It basically said that if I had been 'assigned' work (i.e. given my hours prior to turning up) then I was obligated to honor them and if the workload exceeded those hours I was obligated to complete the work past the hours specified. Now, I personally think that's despicable but I was bound by that contract and I don't know whether those clauses in the contract overruled the 'zero hours' or whether 'zero hours' was the overruling part. But you try to argue that with your manager/employer and it gets incredibly messy.

    Also, regardless of all that, I found that on a zero hours contract - when I turned down work they would 'punish' me by simply not providing me with any hours at all for the whole of the subsequent week. They weren't doing anything illegal so that got away with it.

    Personally, I'd politely tell them you're not working that shift and see what they say/do and then I'd look for another job because zero hours are exploitative (that's actually exactly what I've done tbh).
    Doesn't sound like you were on a 0 hours contract then, as most people would define it.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Doesn't sound like you were on a 0 hours contract then, as most people would define it.
    It was. It was for a company which exclusively offers Zero Hours contracts and who happen to have just collapsed. Unless I'd read the small print in my contract I would never have had a clue about those extra points and as I say, I'm not even convinced as to whether they were legally binding due to the contract being Zero Hours - I'm more convinced that it was scare-mongering by the employer.
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    (Original post by somethingbeautiful)
    It was. It was for a company which exclusively offers Zero Hours contracts and who happen to have just collapsed. Unless I'd read the small print in my contract I would never have had a clue about those extra points and as I say, I'm not even convinced as to whether they were legally binding due to the contract being Zero Hours - I'm more convinced that it was scare-mongering by the employer.
    I expect so.

    I was once fired from a uni bar job (0 hoirs contract) for refusing to work a shift they had set me. Unfortunately I was young and going to quit anyway as it was almost graduation time, otherwise I'd have sued.

    I did hear that the bar closed down 6 months later. Good riddance.
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    I did politely ask but he is the most patronising condescending person I know. I tried to explain to him why it's so importan. And resist loosing my temper whilst being spoken down to. I just have to repeat to myself "Its only McDonald's" and not my career .
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    The only benifit and reason I work there is because all of the shifts are around me allowing me to work more. hours, but they seem to think as soon as class is finished I'm doing nothing
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    technically you won't need to have hours since you're on a zero hour contract
 
 
 

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