Why isn't joining an illegal foreign group (ISIS) a criminal offence?

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Lady Comstock
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It seems a number of people have come back to Britain having gone out to Syria and fought for or supported ISIS in some way. Yet, it seems that they will not be arrested.

Should it be a criminal offence to go out and join an illegal foreign group? This would mean that all those who join ISIS (or attempt to do so), in whatever capacity, are committing a criminal offence.
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Yes, because everyone flying out there to join ISIS announces that they're going to join a terrorist organisation before they do so.
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It should be. Any group like that which is based on hate should be classed as an illegal group.
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Why does government need to get involved?
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(Original post by brokenlevel23)
Supporting ISIS itself isn't illegal because of freedom of expression - ISIS is technically a politcal force (a very violent and stupid one too) and I don't think political allegience is a crime. Real crimes like beheading people and blowing up tanks ARE crimes, though, but it's pretty difficult to prosecute someone who you can't find, is in another country, or you have very little evidence against. Furthermore, the war thing puts the perpetrators in a grey area, killing, property dame etc. is generally accepted within the confines of war (although ISIS members frequently do MUCH worse things). Many people would argue the people in this article shouldn't be punished but they're doing some of the same things as ISIS, just on a different side: http://www.theguardian.com/world/sho...law-fight-isis.

I think if someone broke the Geneva conventions during their time in a war zone (as pretty much every ISIS member does) and stupidly returned to the UK, they should most definitely be prosecuted.
And what of incitement/aiding/abetting/counselling/procuring/attempting - all established concepts in criminal law?
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(Original post by brokenlevel23)
How would you expect to find any evidence for that in Iraq/Syria/The Levant and present it in a British court of law?
Precisely why it should be an offence to join a barbaric, murderous, unlawful group in itself.
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Pretty sure it is,albeit in a convoluted way to the law. It falls under the laws for being a gun for hire not to mention being a murderer
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It is a punishable crime you get shoot when military troops find you

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It is ridiculous. You can join a terrorist organization but if you steal Doritos from Tesco you have committed a criminal offense. LAWL.
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