Gerrard is a specialist in failure.

But Gerrard in the CL final tho. Forget everything else. Base his entire footballing career on that one game

Pretty sure Lampard's 'illustrious' career only consisted of deflected goals and penalties.

His career as a whole was bigger and better than Scholes', hence why he never got in the England team ahead of him. You're only young though, wouldn't expect you to know much so no worries.

His career as a whole was bigger and better than Scholes', hence why he never got in the England team ahead of him. You're only young though, wouldn't expect you to know much so no worries.

Which doesn't mean anything because Sven's England team was only picked on the basis of whoever was the biggest ''name''.

Also aren't you like 19? You'd have barely started school when Scholes retired from England.

Yeah because Gerrard achieved so much with England. Lead them to glory on numerous occasions. Seriously man, get off his ****.
Career was bigger than Scholes. LOL, mate you're just embarrassing yourself.

Gerrard was the bigger name because he was the better player. It's no good saying players like Scholes don't recognition, because Xavi and Pirlo get arselicked as DLP's.

Rk is 16/17 iirc, I can remember football from around 2003 so I caught Gerrard's peak and Scholes essentially. Gerrard was a much better player, guy was 2nd or 3rd in Balon D'or which Paul didn't get near to. Both wonderful players though.

Age doesn't really matter when appreciating one footballer and the other. IT seems as if you think I'm slating Gerrard. Don't get me wrong, he was a quality player but the fact that he didn't make the PL team of the decade and Scholesy did speaks volumes. He aged like a fine wine unlike Gerrard who got worse.
One thing that Scholes really ******* up on was him coming back from retirement.

#salty

Not expecting that from you. How many open play goals has crease head scored in the last 3 seasons?

I think Lampard's a wonderful player - and I've always rated him - but he does have a tendency to either score a) deflected long-range efforts, b) penalties or c) arriving late into the box, having the ball pulled back to him and blasting it in.

I genuinely can't recall a Lampard goal that wasn't one of the aforementioned.

I think Lampard's a wonderful player - and I've always rated him - but he does have a tendency to either score a) deflected long-range efforts, b) penalties or c) arriving late into the box, having the ball pulled back to him and blasting it in.

I genuinely can't recall a Lampard goal that wasn't one of the aforementioned.

What is the whole point of football and what is primary aim of most players/clubs? It's to win trophies. Therefore players/managers/clubs who have the quality and resources to challenge and win titles, are obviously deemed as failures if they don't. So as good and influential as Gerrard is, he and liverpool have underachieved and are therefore failures. You can't argue against this.Top 3 specialists in failures are Arsenal and Wenger, Liverpool and Gerrard and Real Madrid. Real Madrid because they've literally spent close to a billion pound and won one league title in the last six years and one CL in the last 12...They've hardly even made it to the finals in those 12 years too. Wenger and Arsenal, well... that goes without saying