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Holocaust denial thread (posts moved from Middle East comp)

OakBeans
Actually there isn't much that isn't far fetched about Auschwitz etc. Remember the "Death Factories" myth was and still is a fundamental justification for the foundation of the Jewish state in Palestine.

The list of far-fetched deeds the nazis enemies accused them of is as bizarre as it endless:

- Jews made into lampshades
- Jews made into soap
- Jews killed on an electrified floor, thousands at a time
- A bicycle type pedal operated brain bashing machine
- Different coloured crematorium smoke depending of the nationality of the jew being cremated
- Pieces of flesh that were still alive made buckets jump around
- Geysers of blood spurting from mass graves for months afterwards
- Death by eagle - "In the [Buchenwald] camp there was a cage with a bear and an eagle. Every day they would throw a Jew in there. The bear would tear him apart and the eagle would pick his bones."
- Human thumb light switches
- Tearing Babies in Half
- Extermination by pruning - " Several Soviet prisoners would be forced to climb a tree and others had to saw it down. The prisoners would fall together with the tree and be killed."

Most of those were actually testified at Nuremberg and other trials.

oh and the biggy, Miliiions of jews were gassed with Zyklon B

http://www.historiography-project.org/nonsense/nonsense.html
One of these days you will spout all that at someone who was in a camp themselves, or lost relatives. Will that change your opinions?

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Reply 1
Agent Smith
One of these days you will spout all that at someone who was in a camp themselves, or lost relatives. Will that change your opinions?


"holocaust deniers" deny the holocaust defined as genocide by gassing, not by the existance of a plan to deport jews nor do they deny jews died in the war, about 2% of the WW2 death toll was jewish. Unlike the gas chambers there is physical evidence and even film of those things. If you met a UFO believer would that prove aliens exist?
Reply 2
OakBeans
Actually there isn't much that isn't far fetched about Auschwitz etc. Remember the "Death Factories" myth was and still is a fundamental justification for the foundation of the Jewish state in Palestine.

The list of far-fetched deeds the nazis enemies accused them of is as bizarre as it endless:

oh and the biggy, Miliiions of jews were gassed with Zyklon B


You mean my great grandparents (and great aunties and uncles) WEREN'T killed in gas chambers? My grandfather lied to me for all those years?

Hold on whilst i go and spit on his grave!
Reply 3
danielf90
You mean my great grandparents (and great aunties and uncles) WEREN'T killed in gas chambers? My grandfather lied to me for all those years?

Hold on whilst i go and spit on his grave!


The Nazis must have gassed Jews because your grandad said so?

The linch-pin of the holocaust revisionist argument is simply that there were no gas chambers. None. Zero. Nada. There is NO physical evidence of gas chambers that an objective person can find credible. There is growing credible evidence that what purport to be the remains of gas chambers at Auschwitz, and elsewhere, are frauds - less believable than Potemkin villages. There are NO documents, NO orders, NO planning, NO blueprints, NO photographs, NO autopsies - NOTHING that is definitively or even reasonably credible to support gas chambers. It is not believable that an enterprise as massive as the extermination through gassing of six million people in two or three years in a chaotic environment would not leave behind some physical evidence, some documentary remains. And yet there isn't any.
OakBeans
The Nazis must have gassed Jews because your grandad said so?

There is NO physical evidence of gas chambers that an objective person can find credible. There is growing credible evidence that what purport to be the remains of gas chambers at Auschwitz, and elsewhere, are frauds - less believable than Potemkin villages. There are NO documents, NO orders, NO planning, NO blueprints, NO photographs, NO autopsies - NOTHING that is definitively or even reasonably credible to support gas chambers. It is not believable that an enterprise as massive as the extermination through gassing of six million people in two or three years in a chaotic environment would not leave behind some physical evidence, some documentary remains. And yet there isn't any.


Erm... I visited Dachau on my recce through Germany a few weeks ago. Whilst there I saw excerpts of a list of 40,000 people (Mostly Jews and political prisoners) compiled by the Nazi's who were never seen again. Now do tell - Why would the Nazi's spend their time making up a list of 40,000 people who were never at the camp? And if they were at the camp and didn't die... why haven't a notable number come foward?
Reply 5
The Nazis must have gassed Jews because your grandad said so?
Thousands of people must all be telling exactly the same lie because you said so?
Reply 6
Agent Smith
Thousands of people must all be telling exactly the same lie because you said so?


Well I don't know about that, but you are repeating exactly the same lie. People confuse being told something six million times with knowing something. They are not the same. The average man ‘knows’ the Holocaust exists because: 1) everybody uses the term; 2) he has seen photos of stacked bodies; 3) he watched Hitler the Nazis and the Final Solution 4) authorities agree that questioning any of this is reserved for the depraved. In other words, the average man believes in the Holocaust for no logical reason, but out of simple mammalian conformity.
Agent Smith
Thousands of people must all be telling exactly the same lie because you said so?

Millions. And the fact is there are ALL those things he denies the existence of above. Only the most deliberate ignoring of all known fact can lead to the conclusion that there were not gas chambers.

Now I'll just go tell my grandfather that his flashbacks to Auschwitz aren't real...
Reply 8
JonathanH
Millions. And the fact is there are ALL those things he denies the existence of above. Only the most deliberate ignoring of all known fact can lead to the conclusion that there were not gas chambers.

Now I'll just go tell my grandfather that his flashbacks to Auschwitz aren't real...


Why do all jews almost to a man believe the gas chambers story is true and even promote it and harass anybody who doesn't agree with it? It's almost as if they wish it to have happened. Why would anyone be upset that their relatives weren't murdered by the million? Wouldn't anyone be GLAD!? It's almost like the man who says he has been burgled, claims compensation and than tries to stop anybody from investigating the burglery. Weird.
*Rues over ignored post*
Reply 10
OakBeans
Well I don't know about that, but you are repeating exactly the same lie. People confuse being told something six million times with knowing something. They are not the same. The average man ‘knows’ the Holocaust exists because: 1) everybody uses the term; 2) he has seen photos of stacked bodies; 3) he watched Hitler the Nazis and the Final Solution 4) authorities agree that questioning any of this is reserved for the depraved. In other words, the average man believes in the Holocaust for no logical reason, but out of simple mammalian conformity.
And conversely, of course, all Holocaust Revisionists agree that the only people who argue that the Holocaust did, in fact, happen are (a) Zionists and (b) sheeple.

Bäääääh.
OakBeans
Actually there isn't much that isn't far fetched about Auschwitz etc. Remember the "Death Factories" myth was and still is a fundamental justification for the foundation of the Jewish state in Palestine.

The list of far-fetched deeds the nazis enemies accused them of is as bizarre as it endless:

- Jews made into lampshades
- Jews made into soap
- Jews killed on an electrified floor, thousands at a time
- A bicycle type pedal operated brain bashing machine
- Different coloured crematorium smoke depending of the nationality of the jew being cremated
- Pieces of flesh that were still alive made buckets jump around
- Geysers of blood spurting from mass graves for months afterwards
- Death by eagle - "In the [Buchenwald] camp there was a cage with a bear and an eagle. Every day they would throw a Jew in there. The bear would tear him apart and the eagle would pick his bones."
- Human thumb light switches
- Tearing Babies in Half
- Extermination by pruning - " Several Soviet prisoners would be forced to climb a tree and others had to saw it down. The prisoners would fall together with the tree and be killed."

Most of those were actually testified at Nuremberg and other trials.

oh and the biggy, Miliiions of jews were gassed with Zyklon B

http://www.historiography-project.org/nonsense/nonsense.html



This is a great way you people try and critisize Jews and Israel, if you cant find something to criticize then you invent stuff, pretend the jews said it and then critisize it, just like the with the 'elders of zion'

If you where to search online you will find lots of anti smeetic website making these claims about the Jewish lies, but no website that Genuinly trys to put it forward as a fact, because no one ever said it happened as a fact.

Oh and just for good measure you throw Zyclon B in to there, to pretend millions didnt actualy die in there. So where did the large majority of my grandmums family go, did the Nazis cary them off to bloody fairy land or something. Why is it that there are such a relitivly large proportion of survivors from conventinal German labour camps and almost none from the Extermanation camps in Poland.

You people are full of lies, heres your favourite missleading fact "Zyklon B was never found in the death chambers" Well thats because you never checked the real death chambers which lie in ruins after the Nazis tryed ot hide the evidence. they where in fact found to contian traces. All your freinds the holocaust deniers failed to mention the chambers they checked for signs of Zyklon B was a replica built as a memorial to the millions who were murdered. There are photos of mass graves, bodies stacked up and so you say these where due to typhoid, yes there where many deaths from it, but why is it that at first they where fomr typothid and then the anti jew crowd decided infact they never died at all, there have been people saying the Jewish population of Europe rose during world war two, only ignorants like you belive anything so long as its anti semetic, infact the Germans where very thourgher in there records they kept and so 3.5 million people are known to have died at the extermanation camps, the rest either from starvaiton or disease in labour camps (or being shot if they stoped working) Or simply round up and shot in the Ghetto extermanations.

People like you dont deserve your life, your hatred for Jews is so large you are not trying to kill the memory of 6,000,000 Jews as well as millions of non jews.
Reply 12
OakBeans
Why do all jews almost to a man believe the gas chambers story is true and even promote it and harass anybody who doesn't agree with it? It's almost as if they wish it to have happened. Why would anyone be upset that their relatives weren't murdered by the million? Wouldn't anyone be GLAD!? It's almost like the man who says he has been burgled, claims compensation and than tries to stop anybody from investigating the burglery. Weird.


So where did my relatives go?

Did my grandfather NOT have to watch his father be shot dead in to a mass grave and the help shove soil over him? Did he not see his brothers, sisters and mother go to gas chambers and burn?
Reply 13
*titanium*
People like you dont deserve your life, your hatred for Jews is so large you are not trying to kill the memory of 6,000,000 Jews as well as millions of non jews.


Why do all jews almost to a man believe the gas chambers story is true and even promote it and harass anybody who doesn't agree with it? It's almost as if they wish it to have happened. Why would anyone be upset that their relatives weren't murdered by the million? Wouldn't anyone be GLAD!? It's almost like the man who says he has been burgled, claims compensation and than tries to stop anybody from investigating the burglery. Weird.

I've made my point and no I don't 'deserve death' for beating you in a debate.
Reply 14
OakBeans
Why do all jews almost to a man believe the gas chambers story is true and even promote it and harass anybody who doesn't agree with it? It's almost as if they wish it to have happened. Why would anyone be upset that their relatives weren't murdered by the million? Wouldn't anyone be GLAD!? It's almost like the man who says he has been burgled, claims compensation and than tries to stop anybody from investigating the burglery. Weird.

I've made my point and no I don't 'deserve death' for beating you in a debate.


You neither deserve death NOR did you beat ANYONE in a debate about the holocaust!!!

Why would i want my relatives to have been killed?! IDIOT! All im any saying is that you are denying what happened to them when a) They've dissapeared b) Theres so much witness testimony it'd take more than entire life time to read it all c) It's not denied by anyone (other than idiots and blatant anti-semites)! There are scores of evidence to counter every single point a holocaust revisionist has EVER come up with!
Reply 15
Agent Smith
In any case, given that Holocaust Revisionists view the Holocaust as a lie told by Jews for their own ends, I hardly think you can be serious when you ask why they aren't "glad".


The primary response to holocaust revisionists is that they are depraved, that their main motivation is to menace people about the deaths of their relatives because they hate them. When you compare what jews accused the nazis of, really, twisted antagonisers of grieving relatives isn't so bad, and totally in keeping with their habit of viciously defaming their opponents with dishonest and ludicrous claims:

- Jews made into lampshades
- Jews made into soap
- Jews killed on an electrified floor, thousands at a time
- A bicycle type pedal operated brain bashing machine
- Death by eagle - "In the Buchenwald camp there was a cage with a bear and an eagle. Every day they would throw a Jew in there. The bear would tear him apart and the eagle would pick his bones."
- Human thumb light switches
- Tearing Babies in Half

More nonsense:
http://www.historiography-project.org/nonsense/nonsense.html
OakBeans
The primary response to holocaust revisionists is that they are depraved, that their main motivation is to menace people about the deaths of their relatives because they hate them. When you compare what jews accused the nazis of, really, twisted antagonisers of grieving relatives isn't so bad, and totally in keeping with their habit of viciously defaming their opponents with twisted and ridiculous accusations:

- Jews made into lampshades
- Jews made into soap
- Jews killed on an electrified floor, thousands at a time
- A bicycle type pedal operated brain bashing machine
- Death by eagle - "In the [Buchenwald] camp there was a cage with a bear and an eagle. Every day they would throw a Jew in there. The bear would tear him apart and the eagle would pick his bones."
- Human thumb light switches
- Tearing Babies in Half


agian whilst you manged to show websites telling about the Jews lies, you have not manged to find a source that shows the jews every really claimed this, as i just told you already its another way that your cronies spread anti semitism they lie.
Reply 17
ForeverIsMyName
*Rues over ignored post*


There, there; I read it and you raised a good point. ;console;
OakBeans
Why do all jews almost to a man believe the gas chambers story is true and even promote it and harass anybody who doesn't agree with it? It's almost as if they wish it to have happened. Why would anyone be upset that their relatives weren't murdered by the million? Wouldn't anyone be GLAD!? It's almost like the man who says he has been burgled, claims compensation and than tries to stop anybody from investigating the burglery. Weird.

I've made my point and no I don't 'deserve death' for beating you in a debate.


You haven't beaten anyone you pillock.

So, just clear this little point up for me will you - why exactly would thousands if not millions of people be in on this massive conspiracy? What would an old man gain from lying to his grandson about the death of his own parents? And where exactly did all those people disappear to?

Stop making everyone out to be so wicked.
Reply 19
Thud
****ing nazi.

wow...wait - I agree with you on this one.


Well - who couldn't - what a stunning display of ignorance. As someone who has no emotional basis on this question, but have been fortunate enough to visit Wannsee and Auschwitz, I must say anyone realistically attempting to deny it must be deluded.