i used to think same but i realised. there were alos many ohter greats like cauchy , gauss , euler. who extended everything. newtons notation was very cumbersom . and it was leibniz who wrote dy/dx and came up the the integral notaion
I agree but Newton's my top scientist because he thought different about things, he went into unknown terroritory like Galileo, Eratosthenes and Copernicus. Yeah leibniz did use dy/dx, Newton used "X" with a dot on top of it. There are lots of all time greats but I think Newton is the greatest, he's in the top 3 Greatest Mathematicians and top 3 Greatest Physicists of all time. Has any read his mathematical paper, The Principia? The maths inside it is mind blowing, and to think he didn't even have a calculator. Thats a true great, not like stephen hawkings and his telescopes and computers, Newton made his own telescope, and he did all this while most of England had the plague.
Equally as great, lol. Did he discover the basis of maths and physics? Does he have a SI Unit named after him? Did he invent his own mathematical way of rates of variation? Did he invent his own telescopes and construct them single handedly? Did he use his own knowledge of maths instead of a Calculator? Does he have a law of cooling named after him? Did he derive the equation of motion? Did he model the motion of planets like Newton, Kepler and Hooke? Rare disorder or no rare disorder, he has done any of these, thats why hes a second rate scientist, not in the premier league of science like the above and Einstein, Eratosthenes, Pythagoras, Coloumb, Faraday, Maxwell, Galileo, Ptolemy, Copernicus. He cannot match any of these names for breakthroughs in science.
phil is rite. Imagine explaing the world of today without using calculus. the basis of most mathematical techniques. i would be useless. stephen hawking would get nowhere. einestien would have got nowhere with his relativity. newton was definitely one of the greatest. einsteing and gauss both conceded that they thought he was the greatest mathematiciena ever. netwon approach to calculus is genrerally regarded as more rigorous that liebnizes. and his notation for fluxions altouhg cumbersome in some instances, was of great use in mechanics. i think he is great, but i resepect all the the other greats equally as well. gauss for instansce did great work on electromagnetism and he is immortalised in the unit Gauss. althought many pple just use Tesla.
the ability of being able to do calculations in your head does not imply that u r a great mathematician. It only "suggests" that you are.It wouldnt make any diff if I found Calculus today with a calculator. Its a matter of "finding" the path to a problem rather than "walking" the path that matters.
I'd like to know how you can find the fundamental theorem of calculus with a calculator. Simply answer: You Can't. Say Newton had an sum which was similair to this: 345754835892509/(345231*(sqrt(58674) - cuberoot(3223) + 232523535)). He didn't have a calculator to do it on, he'd of had to do it using his mathematical skills, not like the rest of us who would instinctively reach for the calculator.
most people could do that sum given enough time - its just long, complicated and almost entirely pointless arithmetic. the point is that being good at arithmetic or 'sums' doesnt make you a great mathematician and is almost entirely irelevant to this discussion. Newton was undoubtedly a great mathematician - not bacause he was very good at arithmetic as you claim he was - but because he had new ideas and devised concepts which where unthought of.
the fact that he didnt have a calculator does not make his acheivement any more or less great - most of his theorems and indeed most mathematics has very little to do with numbers.
"I'd like to know how you can find the fundamental theorem of calculus with a calculator. Simply answer: You Can't."
Youre almost arguing against yourself there - the point is Stephen Hawkings should not be considered a worse mathematician because he is sensible enough to do long trivial calculations on a calculator rather than spend a long time working them out in his head or on paper - but he should be considered a great mathematician/physicist because he has explored new ideas and aided our understanding of the universe
Lastly - do you think Newton did calculations in his head out of choice, to demonstrate his great mathematical ability? no, he did because he had to and if he were alive today and had the option of using a calculator he obviously would
I can't agree more with you on the point that Newton, if alive today, would use a calculator, but he didn't have the luxury of this. I'm not desputing Hawkings achievements, I just think Newton gave the world far more useful techniques to use. I remember once my Physics told me to learn the basics of physics and understand them to the fullest extent before moving on to the more advanced stuff because I had asked a difficult question about special relativity. He was right, but the point i'm trying to make is, without Newtons discovery of Calculus and modelling motion with maths, Hawkings would not be able to do his calculations, with or without a calculator, because there wouldn't be this diverse way of thinking or the mathematical techniques to do them with. Newton and Galileo layed the foundations of modern physics upon which Einstein and Maxwell have built to its present state. I think I've been a bit harsh on Stephen, but I feel Newton is the greatest of the greatest given the things he discovered and the tools he had to do it with.
dont forget the others as well. like cauchy euler gauss liebniz green everyone is great i am great as well
ps and by the way i think ur username must break some law. u cant just BE isaac newton
i agree with bloodhound - newton may be accredited with the fundamental theorem of calculus but many people developed ideas long before his time that are very similar. for example euclid worked on the idea of a limit in attempting to find the are under a graph which he did succesfully without using modern integration techniques.
Also euler and fermat developed these ideas as well as many others. iwould say newton should be more highly regarded as a physicist than a mathematician because although his contribution to mathematics is significant, it cannot match that of the true mathematical greats such as euler, diophantus, lame, galois etc
physists are cool coz they actually get things done and WORK towards solving problems. mathematicians solve the problems but worry about trying to proove things too much and in the process they are dull creatures and are the lowest in the social hierarchy.
i still disagree with you. eisnstien would have gone nowhere with his relativity if there was not the work in various spaces by gauss, reimaan and others. i still think physic is a subset of mathematcis. mathematicians can do whatever physicists can . physiscst cannot do what mathematicians can. All the great pple were mathematicians. or mathematical physiscit. Maxwell was a mathematician. Newton i take to be a mathematician. Poisson, Stokes. You name one physists who changed the face of science. except plank and einstien.
The more I dio math the more I love it. The more I love the more I understand it. The more I understand it the more I see that its all boiling down to nothing!