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    (Original post by Sami_ThePeelite)
    hhaha yeh i think in those terms as well
    I would not view my self as either, but it's just the way I carry myself, and the fact I am very curious.
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    (Original post by wiwarin_mir)
    I cannot conciously flirt to save my life, which makes thing akward for me, especially if I start flirting, but don't know it.
    go to a club or something - you will have lots of opportunities at uni - itll help you socialise much better
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    well i get very concious of my deportment and countenance when i meet new people - and i stutter and go all silly lol
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    my mum always says to me ' i hope you try and talk to people at uni' and 'i dont want you to stay in your room and avoid people' and ' i want you to make new friends' lol
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    (Original post by TheWolf)
    go to a club or something - you will have lots of opportunities at uni - itll help you socialise much better
    I cannot handle clubs, I really hate being in a crowd, it makes me really nervous and panic. When I panic I go really weird, which puts a lot of people off me.
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    (Original post by Sami_ThePeelite)
    how would you feel if a stranger approached you and started speaking to you???


    wouldn't you find that odd?
    Depends how you do it. A stranger that tries to engage in a strange conversation with you is strange. A stranger that says hi, smiles and carries on with what they were doing - e.g. with friends in a bar is not.

    It's not about what you do, it's how you do it. Talking to strangers is ok - I do it all the time, especially when I'm bored. As long as you don't make it seem as if it's unnatural to you, they're unlikely to feel like they're in an unnatural conversation with u.

    It's the shifty weather-centred conversations that get a little dull & strange.
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    hahaha yeh me too - i used to have panic attacks but they've gone now
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    (Original post by Sami_ThePeelite)
    my mum always says to me ' i hope you try and talk to people at uni' and 'i dont want you to stay in your room and avoid people' and ' i want you to make new friends' lol
    I very rarely make new friends in real life, I seem to be a lot better at meeting people online.
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    (Original post by Sami_ThePeelite)
    hahaha yeh me too - i used to have panic attacks but they've gone now
    I still get them, it is becuase of my autism.
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    (Original post by purplerainbow)
    Are any other girls having the same problem?
    I mean where are the nice guys? ....and by that I mean - witty, intelligent,interesting, kind, faithful yes I said faithful ..who are not into drinking, smoking or drugs and at the same time are not arrogant. Am I asking for too much lol? Or have I been looking in all the wrong places
    Please tell me where they live so I can gladly camp outside their house...
    I'm one of them. You're just not looking at the right places that's all.

    But I'm shy and have never asked a girl out before. Maybe I'm a picky person because I don't want to go out with girls just like that. They have to be respected....
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    (Original post by chidori)
    I'm one of them. You're just not looking at the right places that's all.
    why do you think you are a nice guy then?
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    (Original post by wiwarin_mir)
    why do you think you are a nice guy then?
    You'll have to ask my friends.
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    (Original post by chidori)
    You'll have to ask my friends.
    which ones, your invisible ones or your real ones.
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    (Original post by wiwarin_mir)
    which ones, your invisible ones or your real ones.
    Meaning? :cool:
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    (Original post by chidori)
    Meaning? :cool:
    well, there is naruto, rock lee, sakura, ect.
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    damn, autism is bad,


    i guess some of us are just introverted,


    besides i'd rather be introverted and have 3 or 4 really good friends than an extroverted person with 20/30 superficial and 'seeming' friends
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    (Original post by Sami_ThePeelite)
    damn, autism is bad,


    i guess some of us are just introverted,


    besides i'd rather be introverted and have 3 or 4 really good friends than an extroverted person with 20/30 superficial and 'seeming' friends
    Thats what I think, I really have very few friends in real life, most of mine are online.
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    Perhaps if some of you guys stopped using your shyness as an excuse, and stopped reassuring yourselves that your 'nice' and are being shelved in favour of more confident guys who dont respect their girlfriends, you'd be a little more succesful in the relationships front. Describing yourself as part of a great quasi-underclass of unappreciated guys who are unfairly done to makes you look timid, weak, and in some ways, boring. Feeling sorry for yourself is not a great wooing quality when looking for love!

    Also this assumption that guys with confidence do not treat their girlfriends with respect is just plain offensive. When around my friends (not so much infront of strangers), I do act confidently and can often be the loudest in our group. I fail to see the connection between this and treating a girl badly. Infact, my girlfriend said an attractive quality of mine was the ability to predict when confidence and trying to make her laugh (which some may call arrogance, but as she said is a good type of arrogance) needs to be balanced with tenderness and caring. Furthermore, it isnt just shy guys who have the ability to talk intelligently about topics. I have written many politics articles for student magazines, given a couple of speeches at political rallies and meetings, as well as often talk about politics with friends, but I certainly don't call myself shy.

    So instead of sitting on an internet forum telling everyone how nice you are and blaming us guys who have succesfully found love for your failings, perhaps if you look closer to home, or are just patient, you may surprise yourself sooner or later.
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    (Original post by kingslaw)
    Perhaps if some of you guys stopped using your shyness as an excuse, and stopped reassuring yourselves that your 'nice' and are being shelved in favour of more confident guys who dont respect their girlfriends, you'd be a little more succesful in the relationships front. Describing yourself as part of a great quasi-underclass of unappreciated guys who are unfairly done to makes you look timid, weak, and in some ways, boring. Feeling sorry for yourself is not a great wooing quality when looking for love!

    Also this assumption that guys with confidence do not treat their girlfriends with respect is just plain offensive. When around my friends (not so much infront of strangers), I do act confidently and can often be the loudest in our group. I fail to see the connection between this and treating a girl badly. Infact, my girlfriend said an attractive quality of mine was the ability to predict when confidence and trying to make her laugh (which some may call arrogance, but as she said is a good type of arrogance) needs to be balanced with tenderness and caring.

    So instead of sitting on an internet forum telling everyone how nice you are and blaming us guys who have succesfully found love for your failings, perhaps if you look closer to home, or are just patient, you may surprise yourself sooner or later.
    I am not saying I am a 'nice' guy, I am saying I have some good traits, I leave the actual judgement up to the girl. I never said that all confident guys were cheaters, in fact I pointed out that most of them weren't.
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    (Original post by wiwarin_mir)
    I am not saying I am a 'nice' guy, I am saying I have some good traits, I leave the actual judgement up to the girl. I never said that all confident guys were cheaters, in fact I pointed out that most of them weren't.
    Well I didnt mean you in particular. But somewhere on this thread someone made a strange, illogical analogy between confident guys and cheating or treating girls badly. I know one guy who is shy but is treating his girlfriends VERY badly.
 
 
 
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