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smilepea
I can't cox. That is all.

haha practice makes perfect. i didnt think i could cox either. then i did it a bit more and its actually not too bad! and you didn't hit the Duck!
scarlet ibis
haha practice makes perfect. i didnt think i could cox either. then i did it a bit more and its actually not too bad! and you didn't hit the Duck!


We ran into a certain swan instead (in an IV, two days ago). We ended up crashing into the bank as the cox was too busy trying to get Stalin off her arm to notice that she'd called a power ten without rounding Ditton first. Thankfully, she was OK, although she now has the most fabulous collection of beak-shaped bruises on her arm...
Hi guys - was wondering, our college started up a third men's boat this term (we're diddy so we normally only have two) which I'm coxing. It's made up of a couple of promising novices, a few experienced rowers who want a lighter load on the 'banter barge' and a few who've only done a bit of rowing before.

It's shaping up to be a pretty good crew; ok, balance sometimes a bit crap and don't get me started on blade heights, but we have some sporty people and there's a lot of power in the boat. We've done loads of pieces and some of them have been really good.

I was wondering what our chances are for getting onto bumps. The guys are talking about it like it's just a given that we'll get on and get blades (it's not a crew lacking in confidence). Despite having some experienced rowers, it is essentially a novice crew; but are most of the crews in the getting on race novice crews? How competitive is the Mays GoR?
Galatea
Hi guys - was wondering, our college started up a third men's boat this term (we're diddy so we normally only have two) which I'm coxing. It's made up of a couple of promising novices, a few experienced rowers who want a lighter load on the 'banter barge' and a few who've only done a bit of rowing before.

It's shaping up to be a pretty good crew; ok, balance sometimes a bit crap and don't get me started on blade heights, but we have some sporty people and there's a lot of power in the boat. We've done loads of pieces and some of them have been really good.

I was wondering what our chances are for getting onto bumps. The guys are talking about it like it's just a given that we'll get on and get blades (it's not a crew lacking in confidence). Despite having some experienced rowers, it is essentially a novice crew; but are most of the crews in the getting on race novice crews? How competitive is the Mays GoR?

Having seen your crew out, I'd say you look better than your M2. And to answer your question, the crews often look like they're moving backwards down in the M6 division, so you should get on fairly easily if you've got a bunch of big guys in the boat, considering you're likely to be up against boats like FaT VI and Christ's V.
As for blades predictions, well, carnage can happen in the bottom division, so you need to be bumping in the first minute to be sure!
Reply 2024
Asthma attack halfway through erg test = fail.
Reply 2025
I thought I'd relate to you guys something which happened yesterday at lunch:

Guy1: Oxford 8's started yesterday, Pembroke M1 got bumped.
Me: Do you know how Trinity M1 did?
Guy2 (who I particularly dislike): Smilepea, you don't even know what we're talking about! (with an air of superiority)
Me: I know Oxford 8's started yesterday, and my friend rows for M1 for Trinity OXFORD.
Guy2: Stunned silence, and no comeback.

:proud:
Reply 2026
Hey all,

I am a lightweight rower heading to cambridge next year (fingers crossed conditional offer XD). I am wondering the sorts of Ergometer times required for both college boats and University Lightweight boats. I am quite technically proficient (rowed for five years), so I think the main question is fitness. Any input would be much appreciated.

Cheers.
AndyXXI
Hey all,

I am a lightweight rower heading to cambridge next year (fingers crossed conditional offer XD). I am wondering the sorts of Ergometer times required for both college boats and University Lightweight boats. I am quite technically proficient (rowed for five years), so I think the main question is fitness. Any input would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

For the uni lightweights I guess around 6:30 or below if you want to make the boat. People around 6:35 were turned down this year, but it's not done on erg times alone so you can make up for it with the technique. For college boats this varies a lot, as a rough guide I guess mays 1st boats all under 6:40 but there will be plenty of boats with lower averages and maybe a few with higher ones as well.
AndyXXI
Hey all,

I am a lightweight rower heading to cambridge next year (fingers crossed conditional offer XD). I am wondering the sorts of Ergometer times required for both college boats and University Lightweight boats. I am quite technically proficient (rowed for five years), so I think the main question is fitness. Any input would be much appreciated.

Cheers.


What college are you heading for? First boat times vary enormously depending on where you're going.
AndyXXI
Hey all,

I am a lightweight rower heading to cambridge next year (fingers crossed conditional offer XD). I am wondering the sorts of Ergometer times required for both college boats and University Lightweight boats. I am quite technically proficient (rowed for five years), so I think the main question is fitness. Any input would be much appreciated.

Cheers.


Our college first 8 this year has 2kms ranging from 6:15 to 7:00 with a crew average of around 6:30.

With the lightweights I think most of there boat are low 6:20's most year but they certainly wont be that fast at the start of trialing.
Reply 2030
AndyXXI
Hey all,

I am a lightweight rower heading to cambridge next year (fingers crossed conditional offer XD). I am wondering the sorts of Ergometer times required for both college boats and University Lightweight boats. I am quite technically proficient (rowed for five years), so I think the main question is fitness. Any input would be much appreciated.

Cheers.


If you're keen to do uni rowing, definitely trial for CUL, nobody is turned away initially. If your erg score is 6.50 or lower then you should make it past the first cut at least, in the last 20 this year the slowest erg was about 6.55, and about 6.45 for the last 16.
One thing if you are coming in as a fresher, trialling actually starts a couple of weeks before term starts, so you may want to come up to cambridge a bit early. Although it is possible to join the squad once the normal residence period starts, it means you'll only have a few days to prove yourself before the first cut is made.

Go to http://www.culrc.org/node/14 and join the 'interested' mailing list and you'll get an email during the summer giving you info about trialling.

Unless you are at one of the big clubs, college rowing is generally of a low standard during Michaelmas term, so it is worthwhile to trial if you enjoy rowing in good quality and fast boats.
Reply 2031
So the college I'm heading to is St. Catharines. Last 2k was in march. went 6:52. Definitely gotten fitter/faster since then. Do most people tend to shave a lot off 2ks during the trialing/training period?
AndyXXI
So the college I'm heading to is St. Catharines. Last 2k was in march. went 6:52. Definitely gotten fitter/faster since then. Do most people tend to shave a lot off 2ks during the trialing/training period?


In view of how Catz have been doing, you'll definitely make their first boat in that case. Not the greatest of picks college-wise, though I'm sure they're lovely people, they aren't particularly renowned for being fast on the river - fairly low in the Lents bumps charts atm and they spoon-barged during Mays last year (got bumped on every night). In fairness, their first boat is pretty high in Mays at the moment. They'd be lucky to have you.

Re: lightweights, if you've definitely improved on that 6.52, you're in a pretty decent position to shoot it into CULBC - you might even make the actual boat in your first year if you're lucky. Regardless, it'll give you some time with quality rowers, so you'll get a good experience either way.

Regarding improving 2ks, I'm in my first year of rowing myself so can't really offer any perspective. I would imagine so - I know a few people who dev-squadded with CUWBC and they got a massive boost out of it, both technique and fitness wise.
TheFriendlySocialist
In view of how Catz have been doing, you'll definitely make their first boat in that case. Not the greatest of picks college-wise, though I'm sure they're lovely people, they aren't particularly renowned for being fast on the river - fairly low in the Lents bumps charts atm and they spoon-barged during Mays last year (got bumped on every night). In fairness, their first boat is pretty high in Mays at the moment. They'd be lucky to have you.

Re: lightweights, if you've definitely improved on that 6.52, you're in a pretty decent position to shoot it into CULBC - you might even make the actual boat in your first year if you're lucky. Regardless, it'll give you some time with quality rowers, so you'll get a good experience either way.

HAHAHAHAHA. You're from Christ's, right? That really says it all...(you may want to look at footage from this year's Lents, results from last weekend, and this century's May charts for a comparison of how "prestigious" the two clubs are in comparison).
On the CULRC note, the coach tends not to pick people on their first year of trialling unless they're exceptional. All the more reason to trial the first year though, to get the experience for a run at the boat in your second year.
shunter7634
HAHAHAHAHA. You're from Christ's, right? That really says it all...(you may want to look at footage from this year's Lents, results from last weekend, and this century's May charts for a comparison of how "prestigious" the two clubs are in comparison).
On the CULRC note, the coach tends not to pick people on their first year of trialling unless they're exceptional. All the more reason to trial the first year though, to get the experience for a run at the boat in your second year.


No comment regarding how our first boat is doing at the moment - I didn't exactly apply to a college to row. Simply because you're bigger than us doesn't exactly mean you're anything more than mediocre overall.

Thanks for that post, though. It'll make watching your second boat get rear-ended by Pembroke twenty strokes into their start all the sweeter.

EDIT: A brief check at your club page reveals you're actually in the aforementioned second boat. How amusing.
TheFriendlySocialist
In view of how Catz have been doing, you'll definitely make their first boat in that case. Not the greatest of picks college-wise, though I'm sure they're lovely people, they aren't particularly renowned for being fast on the river - fairly low in the Lents bumps charts atm and they spoon-barged during Mays last year (got bumped on every night). In fairness, their first boat is pretty high in Mays at the moment. They'd be lucky to have you.

Re: lightweights, if you've definitely improved on that 6.52, you're in a pretty decent position to shoot it into CULBC - you might even make the actual boat in your first year if you're lucky. Regardless, it'll give you some time with quality rowers, so you'll get a good experience either way.

Regarding improving 2ks, I'm in my first year of rowing myself so can't really offer any perspective. I would imagine so - I know a few people who dev-squadded with CUWBC and they got a massive boost out of it, both technique and fitness wise.


Catz 1st boat are quite decent this year though. There not up there with Downing, Queens', Caius, FaT and Pembroke but they are probably in the next tier of crews
rudeandidleboy
Catz 1st boat are quite decent this year though. There not up there with Downing, Queens', Caius, FaT and Pembroke but they are probably in the next tier of crews


Certainly so, but judging from previous results they aren't nearly always that good - this year they had a blue (George Nash) and at least one lightweight returning. But that runty little specimen was staking his reputation on a boat he does not row in.
Reply 2037
TheFriendlySocialist
Certainly so, but judging from previous results they aren't nearly always that good - this year they had a blue (George Nash) and at least one lightweight returning. But that runty little specimen was staking his reputation on a boat he does not row in.


You're not coming across well here...
Scipio90
You're not coming across well here...


It's an internet forum. I'm not particularly bothered. :rolleyes:
TheFriendlySocialist
Certainly so, but judging from previous results they aren't nearly always that good - this year they had a blue (George Nash) and at least one lightweight returning. But that runty little specimen was staking his reputation on a boat he does not row in.


Fair enough I was just saying that catz isnt necessarily a bad choice of college for rowing

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