Could somebody please explain how the rowing system works within the colleges at Cambridge? Like is there a men's novice and a, erm, non-novice or what?
I'm a complete rowing noob but I'm keen to get involved (if I make my offer that is).
Could somebody please explain how the rowing system works within the colleges at Cambridge? Like is there a men's novice and a, erm, non-novice or what?
I'm a complete rowing noob but I'm keen to get involved (if I make my offer that is).
The vast majority of people who row at Cambridge have never rowed before, so that's not a problem (6 out of the 8 rowers in my college's top men's crew this year had never rowed before they came to Cambridge). The system is set up to get people into rowing quickly.
There's only a difference between novice and non-novice rowers in your first term as a rower. All the college clubs run social events to get people into rowing, and teach them to row- first in a stable boat called a tub, but moving into eights very soon after you start.
Queens' Ergs is your first chance to represent your college as a rower, and is four weeks into term. Within 6 weeks of getting in a boat for the first time, you will be racing for your college against crews of novice rowers from other colleges- my college runs Emma Sprints, which is the first race for novices and is a "fun race" where crews wear fancy dress.
The last big rowing event of the term is the Fairbairn Cup in early December. This is a time-trial over 2700 metres for the novices (senior crews race a longer course), which is the biggest race of the term. After this, as at the end of every rowing term, there's Boat Club Dinner- a big celebratory meal in Hall with lots of speeches, drinking, and a party afterwards.
After your first term, you're not a novice any more, and will move into your club's senior crews together with people who have rowed before that year. There are plenty of races every term, including the famous Lent and May Bumps.
The vast majority of people who row at Cambridge have never rowed before, so that's not a problem (6 out of the 8 rowers in my college's top men's crew this year had never rowed before they came to Cambridge). The system is set up to get people into rowing quickly.
There's only a difference between novice and non-novice rowers in your first term as a rower. All the college clubs run social events to get people into rowing, and teach them to row- first in a stable boat called a tub, but moving into eights very soon after you start.
Queens' Ergs is your first chance to represent your college as a rower, and is four weeks into term. Within 6 weeks of getting in a boat for the first time, you will be racing for your college against crews of novice rowers from other colleges- my college runs Emma Sprints, which is the first race for novices and is a "fun race" where crews wear fancy dress.
The last big rowing event of the term is the Fairbairn Cup in early December. This is a time-trial over 2700 metres for the novices (senior crews race a longer course), which is the biggest race of the term. After this, as at the end of every rowing term, there's Boat Club Dinner- a big celebratory meal in Hall with lots of speeches, drinking, and a party afterwards.
After your first term, you're not a novice any more, and will move into your club's senior crews together with people who have rowed before that year. There are plenty of races every term, including the famous Lent and May Bumps.
Cheers, that was a great help . What would be a 'good' time to get at the Queens' Ergs? Sub-1:30?
I'm 5ft 11 and 95-96kg. Pulled 500m in 1:32.2 which isn't great I know but I'd never trained before so I don't know .
That's not too bad with no training, and will definitely help your college's Queens' ergs chances! But it's hard to tell how good you'll be off a 500m erg. When I coached novices, there was a guy who pulled a great 500m erg, but didn't have the stamina to go the whole 2.7k in Fairbairns and hence had to row in the second boat.
And, on an unrelated note, since I haven't been on here since Saturday - BLADES!
That's not too bad with no training, and will definitely help your college's Queens' ergs chances! But it's hard to tell how good you'll be off a 500m erg. When I coached novices, there was a guy who pulled a great 500m erg, but didn't have the stamina to go the whole 2.7k in Fairbairns and hence had to row in the second boat.
And, on an unrelated note, since I haven't been on here since Saturday - BLADES!
Thanks for the info. Stamina is definitely something which I need to work on, but I have the whole of Summer to get that up. My training is going to revolve around strength training for the powerlifting society and endurance training for collegiate rowing.
Of course, this is all dependent upon me making my offer .
if you look on the CUWBC site it says triallists are usually between 8:30 and 7:40 (lightweights) and 8:00 and 7:15 (heavyweights) for a 2k erg at the start of dev. squad. that's the women anyway and i'm not desperately far off that at the moment.
quick question, if i'm 5"6.5 and 52kg does that make me, er, TOO lightweight? one of my friends said it'd be advantageous to have an insane power:weight ratio but i doubt i'd want to take things as far as varsity. and i don't think they have specific lightweight boats at college level, so would i be expected to 'beef up'?
also if i've been rowing since april, would i count as a proper novice at cambridge or not?
if you look on the CUWBC site it says triallists are usually between 8:30 and 7:40 (lightweights) and 8:00 and 7:15 (heavyweights) for a 2k erg at the start of dev. squad. that's the women anyway and i'm not desperately far off that at the moment.
quick question, if i'm 5"6.5 and 52kg does that make me, er, TOO lightweight? one of my friends said it'd be advantageous to have an insane power:weight ratio but i doubt i'd want to take things as far as varsity. and i don't think they have specific lightweight boats at college level, so would i be expected to 'beef up'?
also if i've been rowing since april, would i count as a proper novice at cambridge or not?
At college level, particularly for the women, I don't think you'd be expected to bulk up unless you happened to stumble upon a particularly good crew. I know girls who are lighter than that rowing in college 1st VIIIs. And to novice at Cambridge you aren't supposed to have rowed at all before you arrive. If you've never raced then you could probably get away with being a novice, but I'd recommend trying to go straight into the senior club so that you don't spend ages being frustrated with people who have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
4 years ago, I was one of those people too. A vast majority of people who row at Cambridge learnt here. But there are times during novice term I look back and wonder how I ever used to be like that (some would say that my rowing still resembles that showcased by novice boats...)
I think people have forgotten about this thread! Also, most rowing chat goes on in the Rowing Messageboards. Uni Fours predictions, anyone? Also guess who is coxing his college's M1?
I am, but back late 'cause I'm going skiing but yeah, there are about 35 people or so from Pem back from the 7th apparently Pem has just got a quad scull too, so we're going to be learning how to scull! Very excited