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Reply 20

Chumbaniya
Please, don't use the word 'philosophy' to describe what is simply an ethical axiom.


Please, don't pick holes for no valid reason.

Unless of course this is somway related to what I am saying....:rolleyes:

Reply 21

Dictionary definition of philosophy:

# doctrine: a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group or school
# the rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics
# any personal belief about how to live or how to deal with a situation; "self-indulgence was his only philosophy"; "my father's philosophy of child-rearing was to let mother do it"

Reply 22

Anonymous
I appreciate how it sounds but it was either carry on being bullied or let them all go.

I'm about the least angry person you're likely to meet - because I do what I feel is the right thing and I am never downtrodden. I am, as a result, extremely happy.

This is why I think everyone else ought to feel the same.


Do look after your sister though - you will anyway I'm sure, but yeh. And sorry that your family situation has to come to this. But yeh, like I said, give them some way of contacting you, even if it's just an email address. That way, if they ever wanted to change and apologise for real, they could. If you've left them a chance and they don't take it, then it's their fault. If you don't, then it'd be your fault, should they ever take a dramatic turn.

:hugs:

Reply 23

irisng
Do look after your sister though - you will anyway I'm sure, but yeh. And sorry that your family situation has to come to this. But yeh, like I said, give them some way of contacting you, even if it's just an email address. That way, if they ever wanted to change and apologise for real, they could. If you've left them a chance and they don't take it, then it's their fault. If you don't, then it'd be your fault, should they ever take a dramatic turn.

:hugs:



Ah they know how to contact me, my details haven't changed.

Reply 24

are you the person whose cousin swore in front of their 11 year old sister?

Reply 25

Anonymous
More recently I emancipated myself from one side of my family, for bullying my parents for years.



that isnt really the point of standing up and being counted

Reply 26

helenkr
are you the person whose cousin swore in front of their 11 year old sister?


Indeed, it turned out terribly. His mother decided to start screaming and shouting.

Backfired when we told them we had nothing more to say to them.

The other side of the family is wonderful, we all get on nicely.

Reply 27

woodlebert
that isnt really the point of standing up and being counted


It is entirely the point. It has always affected me, and now i'm old enough to appreciate exactly what is going on i'm not taking it. I won't be bullied into silence.

Reply 28

hahaha, sorry totally misunderstood. i thought YOU were bullying them.

the other side of your family was bullying them. i geddit, sorry

Reply 29

Yoda
Oh for **** sake. Not another one of these **** posts.


Too right.

OP, shut the **** up. What is the point in your post here? What are you trying to do? There is no discussion here, it's just you spewing holier than thou crap from your pulpit up on your incredibly tall horse. No one else gives a ****, and likewise, no one here is trying to silence you. We just don't care.

We haven't done you any harm, please reciprocate the favour and stop making our eyes bleed with your useless crap. Also, what EnglishStudent said is true - stop being a whiny little bitch and stop being so god damned cowardly.

Reply 30

My point is that other people should do the same.

Dangrover, you sound much more whiny than me.... as ever.

Reply 31

from what you've said, it's better to shut those people out. maybe if you do it long enough they will apologise and try to make things right. At least the other half of your family is nice.

Reply 32

helenkr
from what you've said, it's better to shut those people out. maybe if you do it long enough they will apologise and try to make things right. At least the other half of your family is nice.


It's true, I think a common probelm people have is putting up with crap from family... just because they're family.

But, if they're doing you no good then you're better off without them, regardless.

Reply 33

Anonymous
Dictionary definition of philosophy:

# doctrine: a belief (or system of beliefs) accepted as authoritative by some group or school
# the rational investigation of questions about existence and knowledge and ethics
# any personal belief about how to live or how to deal with a situation; "self-indulgence was his only philosophy"; "my father's philosophy of child-rearing was to let mother do it"


I'm not really interested in what the dictionary says; I didn't say it was incorrect, I asked you not to use the word in that sense - I like to reserve the word strictly for use in the context of the academic discipline. Given the nature of the original post, it seems the intention of the thread is to state personal preferences with no supporting evidence or argument, so I thought I'd continue in the same vein.

Reply 34

Chumbaniya
I'm not really interested in what the dictionary says; I didn't say it was incorrect, I asked you not to use the word in that sense - I like to reserve the word strictly for use in the context of the academic discipline. Given the nature of the original post, it seems the intention of the thread is to state personal preferences with no supporting evidence or argument, so I thought I'd continue in the same vein.


And you are?

:rolleyes:

Reply 35

Well I've gone through this thread and it seems to me to be nothing more than the spouting of dogma, namely 'don't ignore that with which you disagree'.

It seems the OP is looking simply for us all to bow down and accept her almighty wisdom, but I don't really see how that is a discussion topic. And frankly if my solution to family disputes was just to emancipate myself from my family, then I wouldn't be so quick to suggest that everyone follow in my footsteps.

Reply 36

Jonesy_LJ
And frankly if my solution to family disputes was just to emancipate myself from my family, then I wouldn't be so quick to suggest that everyone follow in my footsteps.


I'd hardly call it a dispute, and you shouldn't either since you know nothing of it.

Judge if you will, but the message i'm tring to send is hardly a bad one, unlike yourself. Surely you have better things to do than that?

Reply 37

Well you say your message is not a bad one, however that's not neccessarily the case is it?

Let's have an example, assume I'm a devout Christian, I disagree with all other religions and atheism as I believe that they cause people to go to hell. By your maxim I cannot ignore this, so what do I do, do I start burning mosques and temples?

The very principle of the society in which we live is tolleration of that with which we don't agree.

Reply 38

However, here perhaps is a maxim that one should live by, namely that one should not be afraid to express the ideas in which they believe, and should not shelter behind the veil of anonimity

Reply 39

Jonesy_LJ


The very principle of the society in which we live is tolleration of that with which we don't agree.


But why? Society isn't exactly thriving as it is.

If a relationship isn't benefitting anyone why continue? Would you stay with a girlfriend you didn't love anymore and you both didn't get on?

This is the same, I stopped loving them the day they proved to me how full of hatred they really are. They abused a child. My sister.