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18 years ago
#1
This is an NUT press release about the GTC fees. It is a quotation, indicated by the >

[q1]>Fee Fiasco 20 Feb 2002[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Government seeks to claw back NUT success[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The NUT has won its claim that the Government should pay the fee required of teachers by the GTC[/q1]
[q1]>(England) and the GTC (Wales). The STRB has agreed and recommends that a sum of £33 be added to all[/q1]
[q1]>spine points for qualified teachers after implementation of our recommended pay uplift.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The Secretary of State has accepted that but refuses to agree that £33 be paid in full to every[/q1]
[q1]>teacher required to register.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>A numeracy test[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>If you are a part-time teacher or a supply teacher, the Government wishes to give you only a[/q1]
[q1]>fraction of the £33 towards your GTC fee.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>A worked example[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Take a 0.5 part-time teacher on point 5 who would earn[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> £20,547 divided by 2 = £10,273.50.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The Secretary of State says:[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> £20,547 + £33 divided by 2 = £10,290 - £16.50 extra[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The NUT says:[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> £20,547 + £33 divided by 2 = £10,306.50 - £33 extra[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>A small difference in pounds - a vast difference in principle. The position of hourly-paid teachers[/q1]
[q1]>will be even worse.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The government's discriminatory approach[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The headteacher of a group 8 school earning £85,704 will get the £33 to pay in full his GTC fee.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The 0.5 part-time teacher on Main Pay Scale point 5 earning £20,547 will get only £16.50 to pay[/q1]
[q1]>only part of her GTC fee.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The NUT's equitable approach[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The NUT principle is that there should be no discrimination.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>The NUT's policy is that every teacher in England and Wales, full-time, part-time and supply,[/q1]
[q1]>should receive the full £33 to pay the GTC fee.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>General Secretary, Doug McAvoy, said:[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>"Every teacher should receive the £33. Any other outcome will be discriminatory. Teachers' hopes[/q1]
[q1]>were raised when the GTC, the Review Body and the Government accepted the NUT's view that to[/q1]
[q1]>teachers' pay should be added the GTC fee. Teachers' hopes were dashed when the Secretary of State[/q1]
[q1]>decided to discriminate against part-time, supply and agency teachers.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>"The NUT has urged the Secretary of State to agree that the £33 should be paid in full to every[/q1]
[q1]>teacher, full-time, part-time and supply. If she fails to do so, the NUT will advise members to[/q1]
[q1]>withdraw their agreement to pay the fee.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>"Members who have yet to give their agreement should wait until further advice."[/q1]

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18 years ago
#2
[q2]> >The headteacher of a group 8 school earning £85,704 will get the £33 to[/q2]
pay
[q2]> >in full his GTC fee.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The 0.5 part-time teacher on Main Pay Scale point 5 earning £20,547 will[/q2]
get
[q2]> >only £16.50 to pay only part of her GTC fee.[/q2]

Part-time teacher - 'Her'?

[q2]> >The NUT principle is that there should be no discrimination.[/q2]

Well there certainly is when it comes to language.

Dave C
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18 years ago
#3
All very academic really, I'm still not joining a talking shop that will send me junk mail and waste
my time. £33 extra in my salary. Thank-you very much... I take it in part payment for the hours I'm
currently putting into the school show.

Love eddie

"Derek McMillan" <[email protected] .com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
[q1]> This is an NUT press release about the GTC fees. It is a quotation, indicated by the >[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q2]> >Fee Fiasco 20 Feb 2002[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >Government seeks to claw back NUT success[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The NUT has won its claim that the Government should pay the fee required[/q2]
of
[q2]> >teachers by the GTC (England) and the GTC (Wales). The STRB has agreed[/q2]
and
[q2]> >recommends that a sum of £33 be added to all spine points for qualified teachers after[/q2]
[q2]> >implementation of our recommended pay uplift.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The Secretary of State has accepted that but refuses to agree that £33 be paid in full to every[/q2]
[q2]> >teacher required to register.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >A numeracy test[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >Divide and add - add and divide - which is better?[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >If you are a part-time teacher or a supply teacher, the Government wishes[/q2]
to
[q2]> >give you only a fraction of the £33 towards your GTC fee.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >A worked example[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >Take a 0.5 part-time teacher on point 5 who would earn[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> > £20,547 divided by 2 = £10,273.50.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The Secretary of State says:[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> > £20,547 + £33 divided by 2 = £10,290 - £16.50 extra[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The NUT says:[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> > £20,547 + £33 divided by 2 = £10,306.50 - £33 extra[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >A small difference in pounds - a vast difference in principle. The[/q2]
position
[q2]> >of hourly-paid teachers will be even worse.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The government's discriminatory approach[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The headteacher of a group 8 school earning £85,704 will get the £33 to[/q2]
pay
[q2]> >in full his GTC fee.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The 0.5 part-time teacher on Main Pay Scale point 5 earning £20,547 will[/q2]
get
[q2]> >only £16.50 to pay only part of her GTC fee.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The NUT's equitable approach[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The NUT principle is that there should be no discrimination.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >The NUT's policy is that every teacher in England and Wales, full-time, part-time and supply,[/q2]
[q2]> >should receive the full £33 to pay the GTC fee.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >General Secretary, Doug McAvoy, said:[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >"Every teacher should receive the £33. Any other outcome will be discriminatory. Teachers' hopes[/q2]
[q2]> >were raised when the GTC, the Review Body and the Government accepted the NUT's view that to[/q2]
[q2]> >teachers' pay should[/q2]
be
[q2]> >added the GTC fee. Teachers' hopes were dashed when the Secretary of[/q2]
State
[q2]> >decided to discriminate against part-time, supply and agency teachers.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >"The NUT has urged the Secretary of State to agree that the £33 should be paid in full to every[/q2]
[q2]> >teacher, full-time, part-time and supply. If she[/q2]
fails
[q2]> >to do so, the NUT will advise members to withdraw their agreement to pay[/q2]
the
[q2]> >fee.[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> >"Members who have yet to give their agreement should wait until further advice."[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> ----------------------------------------[/q1]
[q1]> http://www.geocities.com/derekmcmillan1951 You can contact me by email or ICQ 87147116[/q1]
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18 years ago
#4
not so academic when they take the fee out of your salary anyway

"Eddie Halliday" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
[q1]> All very academic really, I'm still not joining a talking shop that will send me junk mail and[/q1]
[q1]> waste my time. £33 extra in my salary. Thank-you[/q1]
very
[q1]> much... I take it in part payment for the hours I'm currently putting into the school show.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> Love eddie[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> "Derek McMillan" <[email protected] .com> wrote in message[/q1]
[q1]> news:[email protected]...[/q1]
[q2]> > This is an NUT press release about the GTC fees. It is a quotation, indicated by the >[/q2]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q3]> > >Fee Fiasco 20 Feb 2002[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >Government seeks to claw back NUT success[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The NUT has won its claim that the Government should pay the fee[/q3]
required
[q1]> of[/q1]
[q3]> > >teachers by the GTC (England) and the GTC (Wales). The STRB has agreed[/q3]
[q1]> and[/q1]
[q3]> > >recommends that a sum of £33 be added to all spine points for qualified teachers after[/q3]
[q3]> > >implementation of our recommended pay uplift.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The Secretary of State has accepted that but refuses to agree that £33[/q3]
be
[q3]> > >paid in full to every teacher required to register.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >A numeracy test[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >Divide and add - add and divide - which is better?[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >If you are a part-time teacher or a supply teacher, the Government[/q3]
wishes
[q1]> to[/q1]
[q3]> > >give you only a fraction of the £33 towards your GTC fee.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >A worked example[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >Take a 0.5 part-time teacher on point 5 who would earn[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > £20,547 divided by 2 = £10,273.50.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The Secretary of State says:[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > £20,547 + £33 divided by 2 = £10,290 - £16.50 extra[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The NUT says:[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > > £20,547 + £33 divided by 2 = £10,306.50 - £33 extra[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >A small difference in pounds - a vast difference in principle. The[/q3]
[q1]> position[/q1]
[q3]> > >of hourly-paid teachers will be even worse.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The government's discriminatory approach[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The headteacher of a group 8 school earning £85,704 will get the £33 to[/q3]
[q1]> pay[/q1]
[q3]> > >in full his GTC fee.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The 0.5 part-time teacher on Main Pay Scale point 5 earning £20,547[/q3]
will
[q1]> get[/q1]
[q3]> > >only £16.50 to pay only part of her GTC fee.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The NUT's equitable approach[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The NUT principle is that there should be no discrimination.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >The NUT's policy is that every teacher in England and Wales, full-time, part-time and supply,[/q3]
[q3]> > >should receive the full £33 to pay the GTC fee.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >General Secretary, Doug McAvoy, said:[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >"Every teacher should receive the £33. Any other outcome will be discriminatory. Teachers'[/q3]
[q3]> > >hopes were raised when the GTC, the Review[/q3]
Body
[q3]> > >and the Government accepted the NUT's view that to teachers' pay should[/q3]
[q1]> be[/q1]
[q3]> > >added the GTC fee. Teachers' hopes were dashed when the Secretary of[/q3]
[q1]> State[/q1]
[q3]> > >decided to discriminate against part-time, supply and agency teachers.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >"The NUT has urged the Secretary of State to agree that the £33 should[/q3]
be
[q3]> > >paid in full to every teacher, full-time, part-time and supply. If she[/q3]
[q1]> fails[/q1]
[q3]> > >to do so, the NUT will advise members to withdraw their agreement to[/q3]
pay
[q1]> the[/q1]
[q3]> > >fee.[/q3]
[q3]> > >[/q3]
[q3]> > >"Members who have yet to give their agreement should wait until further advice."[/q3]
[q2]> >[/q2]
[q2]> > ----------------------------------------[/q2]
[q2]> > http://www.geocities.com/derekmcmillan1951 You can contact me by email or ICQ 87147116[/q2]
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18 years ago
#5
Yes. As I said it was a quotation. My view (and the view of Socialist Teachers) is in line with
yours. If the GTC were free it would be a disgrace to have a body run by Tony's cronies which
pretends to represent teachers.

On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 1955 -0000, "Eddie Halliday" <[email protected]> wrote:

[q1]>All very academic really, I'm still not joining a talking shop that will send me junk mail and[/q1]
[q1]>waste my time. £33 extra in my salary. Thank-you very much... I take it in part payment for the[/q1]
[q1]>hours I'm currently putting into the school show.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>Love eddie[/q1]

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