VM330 - Motion to Extend Assistance to the Forces Against ISIS Watch

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VM330 - Motion to Extend Assistance to the Forces Against ISIS, the Hon. thehistorybore MPThis house believes that the United Kingdom must extend further financial and even military assistance to those Middle Eastern states in opposition to the Islamic State. The United Kingdom has a moral duty to lead Western opposition to the threat to peace and stability that the Islamic State poses, especially as many of the effected States are former British colonies.
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We should focus on our own country and the state of our Armed Forces before sending them to the Middle East again. We have no more of a moral duty than Germany, France, Italy or Spain and yet because of our nation's history we feel like we do. We ballsed up Iraq, we shouldn't have got involved in Libya and we have thousands of people dying in the Mediterranean where our Armed Forces could be deployed to support the already stretched humanitarian services.

Having said that, ISIS is a threat that should be tackled, albeit in due course - abstain.
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Whilst ISIS are indeed a threat that need to be tackled, this motion is too vague for my liking and could imply an invasion. I think that we should learn from the past. So, before taking further action I feel that we need a genuine, do-able strategy, including an exit strategy.

Therefore, for now, I will abstain.
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An abstention from me for the same reasons as expressed by my party colleague above.
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The infidel must be crushed!
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(Original post by Kittiara)
Whilst ISIS are indeed a threat that need to be tackled, this motion is too vague for my liking and could imply an invasion. I think that we should learn from the past. So, before taking further action I feel that we need a genuine, do-able strategy, including an exit strategy.

Therefore, for now, I will abstain.
Agreed. Were the motion to rule out elements of military support - ground troops, essentially - I'd support this.
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(Original post by Kittiara)
Whilst ISIS are indeed a threat that need to be tackled, this motion is too vague for my liking and could imply an invasion. I think that we should learn from the past. So, before taking further action I feel that we need a genuine, do-able strategy, including an exit strategy.

Therefore, for now, I will abstain.
I genuinely cannot add anymore than what Kittiara has said. I am abstaining
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Abstention for above plus the insistence that the UK should be leading. The UK should be a part of the change, not the leading force.
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I'm once again saddened at the lack of resolve from this House. I really do wonder what people would do with a real threat of war these days if your more representative of people than me.
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I'm once again saddened at the lack of resolve from this House. I really do wonder what people would do with a real threat of war these days if your more representative of people than me.
Hear hear.
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(Original post by Rakas21)
I'm once again saddened at the lack of resolve from this House. I really do wonder what people would do with a real threat of war these days if your more representative of people than me.
I agree. Everyone here is resolute about minor social issues and minimum wage but when it comes to difficult decisions, most MPs bury their heads in the sand. :dontknow:
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(Original post by Rakas21)
I'm once again saddened at the lack of resolve from this House. I really do wonder what people would do with a real threat of war these days if your more representative of people than me.
(Original post by Life_peer)
. Everyone here is resolute about minor social issues and minimum wage but when it comes to difficult decisions, most MPs bury their heads in the sand. :dontknow:
Hear hear!
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Hear hear!
Breaking news.. ISIS invades the Balcans..

Meanwhile back in the UK..

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(Original post by Rakas21)
Breaking news.. ISIS invades the Balcans..

Meanwhile back in the UK..
Not worth the bones of a single British grenadier... meanwhile an obscure species of bird is threatened by insurgents with extinction.
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I'm okay with extending financial aid, but not military aid. What we're doing already militarily - bombing them - is quite enough. If we send troops to fight IS, that will just play into their claims that we're 'Crusaders' come to destroy Islam and kill Muslims, which will make it easier for them to radicalise young Muslims in Western countries which will make the problem worse. The motion also says that we should be leading Western opposition to IS, implying that we should be the biggest force in any hypothetical anti-IS military coalition and that we would be solely responsible for planning any hypothetical military operations. Let's be honest: this country couldn't successfully invade the Isles of Scilly if America didn't do the bulk of the work. Nay.
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(Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
I'm okay with extending financial aid, but not military aid. What we're doing already militarily - bombing them - is quite enough. If we send troops to fight IS, that will just play into their claims that we're 'Crusaders' come to destroy Islam and kill Muslims, which will make it easier for them to radicalise young Muslims in Western countries which will make the problem worse. The motion also says that we should be leading Western opposition to IS, implying that we should be the biggest force in any hypothetical anti-IS military coalition and that we would be solely responsible for planning any hypothetical military operations. Let's be honest: this country couldn't successfully invade the Isles of Scilly if America didn't do the bulk of the work. Nay.
It's interesting that your all so scared of playing into their 'evil west' image but what you forget is that we are superior and would reduce to a Taliban like annoyance.
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Vague. ABstain. Though in principle i want to slaughter them all and salt their fields.
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Vague. ABstain. Though in principle i want to slaughter them all and salt their fields.
Now that shows... conviction lol

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