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Reply 60
After looking at these I really know im not oxbridge material lmao :biggrin:
Original post by goodies
After looking at these I really know im not oxbridge material lmao :biggrin:


same lol
Reply 62
Original post by Protoxylic

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But that's using FP2. I'm sure there's probably a way with comparing coefficients with FP1 knowledge.


I^i doesn't just have 1 value, consider the periodicity of sin and cos :smile:
Original post by Gome44
I^i doesn't just have 1 value, consider the periodicity of sin and cos :smile:


Obviously were are looking at the principal value.


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Original post by Gome44
I^i doesn't just have 1 value, consider the periodicity of sin and cos :smile:


The principal value would be 0.208

School boy error making my brain think that e^(-pi/2+2kpi) didn't produce different numbers lmao
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Original post by Protoxylic
Actually yes it does, 0.208....

If you are talking about adding multiples of 2pi to it's argument then that wouldn't give you a different numerical value. It's not like taking nth roots where you would have n roots all with different arguments


No he is right. It takes lods of values, note that it would be e^-(pi/2+2kpi)


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For example e^ix=cosx+isinx
Let x=5pi/2
Then raise both sides to the ith power.


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Original post by Protoxylic
Actually yes it does, 0.208....

If you are talking about adding multiples of 2pi to it's argument then that wouldn't give you a different numerical value. It's not like taking nth roots where you would have n roots all with different arguments


?

i=e^i(5π/2) for example. i^i=e^-(5π/2) =/= 0.208
Reply 68
Original post by physicsmaths
Obviously were are looking at the principal value.


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But if you really wanted to impress the interviewer :wink:

Anyway, I doubt that question would come up as it's well known (I think it's on one of the trinity tests on mathshelper)
Original post by Gome44
But if you really wanted to impress the interviewer :wink:

Anyway, I doubt that question would come up as it's well known (I think it's on one of the trinity tests on mathshelper)


Yes, I think so. It is good though. Where are you going this october?


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To see why we get multiple values:
First define log(z)=lnz+iarg(z)log(z)=ln|z|+iarg(z)
So ii=eilog(i)i^i=e^{ilog(i)}
log(i)=lni+iarg(i)=i(π2+2nπ)\displaystyle log(i)=ln|i|+iarg(i)=i(\frac{\pi}{2}+2n\pi), for integer n.
So ii=eii(π2+2nπ)=e(π2+2nπ)\displaystyle i^i=e^{i \cdot i(\frac{\pi}{2}+2n\pi)}=e^{-(\frac{\pi}{2}+2n\pi)}

So the multiple values come from the fact the argument is multi-valued. (Due to the periodicity of sine and cosine as Gome44 said)
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Original post by Gome44
?

i=e^i(5π/2) for example. i^i=e^-(5π/2) =/= 0.208


Original post by physicsmaths
No he is right. It takes lods of values, note that it would be e^-(pi/2+2kpi)


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Yeah, I have no idea why I didn't think e^[-pi/2 +2npi] would be a different number, Jesus christ, school boy error
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Reply 72
Original post by physicsmaths
Yes, I think so. It is good though. Where are you going this october?


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Oxford (grades permitting) :smile:
Reply 74
Original post by physicsmaths


maths obviously
Original post by Gome44
But if you really wanted to impress the interviewer :wink:

Anyway, I doubt that question would come up as it's well known (I think it's on one of the trinity tests on mathshelper)



i had a very similar question come up in my interview
Original post by TeeEm
maths obviously


Could be physics or engineering....


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Reply 78


true dat?

what language is this?
Original post by TeeEm
true dat?

what language is this?


Engrish, innit?

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