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Why aren't government schools teaching students about the history of Britain?

When I was in school I learned about the Henry VIII wives and slavery. All of which was taught from a Liberal or anti-British view point. I watch that Al Gore joke on climate change called inconvenient truth, I was told recycling was good, I learned nothing of any value or truth until I left school.

Why aren't students taught about the War of the Three Kingdoms, The Restoration, Glorious Revolution (which is the second most important event in human history) or the War of Spanish Succession. It seem to me looking back that I was taught the Monarchy is bad and Britain shouldn't have taken part in the African slave trade. Oh and I also had to watch the film Glory, what this has to do with Britain I don't know. I also had to watch Blackadder the WW1 series which basically just makes fools out of the upper class and how hard done by the lower classes were.

I am sure that if people were taught how the British nation state was founded and maintained itself peoples political and religious views would totally change. However currently children are being indoctrinated with Puritan Liberalism and taught to hate everything their ancestors did.

It just so happens I founded videos of Peter Hitchens on Youtube and agreed with him. So I improved my views. However I feel the government lied to me and all my schooling was pointless. That makes me hate the government and want to take away its power.
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Ki Yung Na
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Er hello - Yes they are.?

A government serves it people. Not us them.
You weren't taught by the government, you were taught by your school, your schooling wasn't just about what you learned in the classroom; it was suppose to be what they taught you to do outside the classroom - but that's another discussion - point is blame them; it was society's flaw.

Anyways. Your so called government's greatest establishment and greatest achievement would be it's liberalism.
I'd like to think many fellow brits would agree and that whatever and where ever their family may have history from; they too treasure this liberty.

If this is really your opinion on regards to history and the schooling then I can only say; yes the system isn't the best and has failed somethings but it's only thanks to this system you can even voice such discontent and challenge it.

Thanks Britain. Liberty is the greatest thing I've ever been taught about.
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coz 'istory iz borin' innit bruv
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Er hello - Yes they are.?

A government serves it people. Not us them.
You weren't taught by the government, you were taught by your school, your schooling wasn't just about what you learned in the classroom; it was suppose to be what they taught you to do outside the classroom - but that's another discussion - point is blame them; it was society's flaw.

Anyways. Your so called government's greatest establishment and greatest achievement would be it's liberalism.
I'd like to think many fellow brits would agree and that whatever and where ever their family may have history from; they too treasure this liberty.

If this is really your opinion on regards to history and the schooling then I can only say; yes the system isn't the best and has failed somethings but it's only thanks to this system you can even voice such discontent and challenge it.

Thanks Britain. Liberty is the greatest thing I've ever been taught about.
No they aren't. I wasn't at any rate. Neither was anyone I know.

No the government as an institution serves its own interests to increase its power and weaken other institutions within the nation state. The government controls the schools. No it has nothing to do with "society" it is the government using its power to make people believe certain things and think a certain way through indoctrination.

No Liberty, Freedom and Justices doesn't come from the government. It comes from the power balance and compromise of institutions after the Glorious Revolution. In fact the government has taken away peoples Liberty to bring up their children and pass on their legacy, removed the independence of the Courts and Media. So taking away peoples Justice and Freedom.

They my treasure it because they don't know anything different and how things were for their ancestors. The only people who are taught anything about it are the Loyalist in Ulster. Which is why these brave, impoverished souls oppose Liberalism and fight to stop it.

No I can say what I like and have the freedom to do so because the High Tories rioted in 1710 when the Whig's/Liberals locked up Mr Sacheverell for speaking against the English Bill of Rights.
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"All your schooling was pointless", not do anything that wasn't history?

And I think we learnt about a fair amount. Did the Romans, Saxons, Norman, war of the roses, Tudors, and that was all before gcse. Sure there is a lot we missed, but they halve to balance it with other subjects.
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"All your schooling was pointless", not do anything that wasn't history?

And I think we learnt about a fair amount. Did the Romans, Saxons, Norman, war of the roses, Tudors, and that was all before gcse. Sure there is a lot we missed, but they halve to balance it with other subjects.
Well of course it is. You need English, science, history, maths, music and so on to understand legacy and be educated.

So you learned nothing about how the nation of Britain was formed and founded then? Nothing about the most important events in the history of the nation. Our greatest victories and successes?
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Well of course it is. You need English, science, history, maths, music and so on to understand legacy and be educated.

So you learned nothing about how the nation of Britain was formed and founded then? Nothing about the most important events in the history of the nation. Our greatest victories and successes?
Your obsession with "legacy" is a little disturbing.

And to be honest, those events are only the most important in British history from your political viewpoint. You say the government is indoctrinating children, but focusing on what you think is important is just as much indoctrination.
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Progressive left/Marxists hate the UK, so they focus on the negatives. They people are in charge of the culture now.

Its very simple.

For example, by focusing on just negatives, its possible to prove that Mozart was the worst musician in human history.
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Your obsession with "legacy" is a little disturbing.

And to be honest, those events are only the most important in British history from your political viewpoint. You say the government is indoctrinating children, but focusing on what you think is important is just as much indoctrination.
But the present is the legacy of the past. So why would be "obsession" with it be disturbing? Indeed it is rather more worrying that people want to reject legacy total.

No they were important events from everybody's point of view. Just again people don't learn about it. They far more important to Britain than what happened in England. These events are when Britain was formed.

Yeah but what I want is a compromise where some of what I support is taught and some of what the other people want is taught. So people get a greater overall understanding. Rather than just Liberal bias indoctrination.
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We learned Medicine Through Time, the Irish Troubles, the rise & fall of the Nazis, the Russian revolutions, Condition of England in the 18th and 19th century.

Pretty much all far more important to learn about than celebrating Britain's attempt to conquer the world loool
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Progressive left/Marxists hate the UK, so they focus on the negatives. They people are in charge of the culture now.

Its very simple.

For example, by focusing on just negatives, its possible to prove that Mozart was the worst musician in human history.
The UK doesn't have Marxists and never really has. What we have had is Puritanism, Whiggery and Liberalism. Maybe Socialism but it was short lives for no more than 6 years after WW2. Pitched against that is High Toryism the people who support the Monarchy, Church of England and Aristocracy.

The Americans control the culture not the Progressives in Britain. What the Progressives control is three institutions the government, courts and media through this they manipulate and change nation to what they want. If you want to stop you have two option fight a war which is what the Loyalists did or what until another great event happens like leaving the EU or the death of the Queen and use this to increase the power of the High Tory institutions.

I think everybody agree Mozart was a genius. However nobody is taught about Mozart in government school. So they rather make out like Mozart didn't exist, rather than say he was bad. The same thing they do with everything else.
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I think everybody agree Mozart was a genius. However nobody is taught about Mozart in government school. So they rather make out like Mozart didn't exist, rather than say he was bad. The same thing they do with everything else.
Could you reword that so that it makes sense?
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UK clearly on the decline brah, what's the point!?
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you watched glory and blackadder in school? You lucky sob.

Dunno bout England but Irelands history subject is all about the Irish from iron age to medieval times then its major rebellions and politics from 1798 to the creations of the free state and republic and our involvement in the world wars. Actually was my favourite subject
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There is lots of important history relating to our nation taught in schools.
Romans,
Anglosaxons,
1066 etal,
Tudors,
Civil war.
Slave trade
Industrial revolution.
Ww1
Ww2
Cold war.

There is always going to be stuff missed out.
Stone/iron age,
Boudica,
100 years war,
William wallace/the bruce
Jacobite rebellion,
Glorious revolution,
Colonial america,
Waterloo/Trafalgar,
Colonial india.
Irish independence.

The fact is that all of these are important but there isnt enough time to teach them to the level that each topic requires. The problem with history is that everyone has a bit that they think is important (mine is the renasance) but not everyone can have it their way!
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I was never taught about the start of the monarchy or the Anglo-Saxons? Still not sure on any of it.
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(Original post by william walker)
The UK doesn't have Marxists and never really has. What we have had is Puritanism, Whiggery and Liberalism. Maybe Socialism but it was short lives for no more than 6 years after WW2. Pitched against that is High Toryism the people who support the Monarchy, Church of England and Aristocracy.

The Americans control the culture not the Progressives in Britain. What the Progressives control is three institutions the government, courts and media through this they manipulate and change nation to what they want. If you want to stop you have two option fight a war which is what the Loyalists did or what until another great event happens like leaving the EU or the death of the Queen and use this to increase the power of the High Tory institutions.

I think everybody agree Mozart was a genius. However nobody is taught about Mozart in government school. So they rather make out like Mozart didn't exist, rather than say he was bad. The same thing they do with everything else.

UK is dominated by Marxist narrative of history.
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Could you reword that so that it makes sense?
No.
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UK clearly on the decline brah, what's the point!?
Britain has been in decline since the 1770's. It isn't about stopping a decline, it is simply about maintaining Britain's existence. Do you not want to survive or something?
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(Original post by william walker)
Britain has been in decline since the 1770's. It isn't about stopping a decline, it is simply about maintaining Britain's existence. Do you not want to survive or something?
Let the kids learn mandarin, it's the only way they will survive now.
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