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Suicide? Urgent please help

I am really at a loss as of what to do right now.
Basically i just got a call from my cousin who Im very close to. He has very bad depression due to things that have happened in his childhood etc and hes often feeling very low.

In the phonecall we just had he kept telling me that he just didnt want to carry on anymore and couldnt cope with things. Usually I wouldnt think much of this as hes always generally depressed and he always confides in me but recently he seems to be worse. Hes attempted suicide before by jumping off a building and was in hospital for ages. Im so so scared that hes going to do something like this again.

Ive spoken to him on the phone for a few hours and Ive tried to call my aunt (his mum) but shes not available. Ive tried phoning my mum but i cant get hold of her either and now hes not answering. What shall i do? Im so worried hes going to really hurt himself.

I cant go round and see him coz Im a few hours away at uni. Shall i keep phoning round to get someone to go round to his flat? Do u think im over reacting? Please help and quick

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Reply 1

I don't think you're overreacting.

Knowing that someone close to them is concerned about their welfare can make a difference to someone who is depressed, and stop them from going completely over the edge.

I wish I could offer you something more helpful, but that's all I've got.

Reply 2

I don't think you're overreacting, put it this way, if something did happen and you didn't try and do something because you thought you were being silly you'd feel stupid. If you're really concerned about them get someone to go round and check up.

Reply 3

Call anyone that is near to him to go over as soon as poss. When you've done that call him back and keep him on the phone until the person gets there. Keep trying until you find someone that can get to him. Good luck

Reply 4

Police?

Reply 5

If you are that worried, then yes it is best to try and get someone to see if they are ok. If this fails you have to talk to the person and try to get them to think of some kind of positive. Tell them how worried you are

Reply 6

I think trying to get someone to check on him is a good idea.

Reply 7

If you really think he is at serious risk, and if he has attempted it before, I would advice calling the police and asking them to go round. Keep on the phone to him and keep him talking too...

Hope things work out

Reply 8

As people have said, police may be the answer. let us know if he is ok

Reply 9

Hey hunny
i know how difficult it must be for you since u seem quite worried about your cousin at this present moment, the best thing to do is keep on trying , to get hold of him , keep calling any relative that lives near him and talk to him about why hes feeling the way he is, and just talk about his problems with him, i have quoted a article for you, for situations like these your in :-


1. Take it seriously.

Myth: “The people who talk about it don't do it.” Studies have found that more than 75% of all completed suicides did things in the few weeks or months prior to their deaths to indicate to others that they were in deep despair. Anyone expressing suicidal feelings needs immediate attention.

Myth: “Anyone who tries to kill himself has got to be crazy.” Perhaps 10% of all suicidal people are psychotic or have delusional beliefs about reality. Most suicidal people suffer from the recognized mental illness of depression; but many depressed people adequately manage their daily affairs. The absence of “craziness” does not mean the absence of suicide risk.

“Those problems weren't enough to commit suicide over,” is often said by people who knew a completed suicide. You cannot assume that because you feel something is not worth being suicidal about, that the person you are with feels the same way. It is not how bad the problem is, but how badly it's hurting the person who has it.
2. Remember: suicidal behavior is a cry for help.

Myth: “If a someone is going to kill himself, nothing can stop him.” The fact that a person is still alive is sufficient proof that part of him wants to remain alive. The suicidal person is ambivalent - part of him wants to live and part of him wants not so much death as he wants the pain to end. It is the part that wants to live that tells another “I feel suicidal.” If a suicidal person turns to you it is likely that he believes that you are more caring, more informed about coping with misfortune, and more willing to protect his confidentiality. No matter how negative the manner and content of his talk, he is doing a positive thing and has a positive view of you.
3. Be willing to give and get help sooner rather than later.

Suicide prevention is not a last minute activity. All textbooks on depression say it should be reached as soon as possible. Unfortunately, suicidal people are afraid that trying to get help may bring them more pain: being told they are stupid, foolish, sinful, or manipulative; rejection; punishment; suspension from school or job; written records of their condition; or involuntary commitment. You need to do everything you can to reduce pain, rather than increase or prolong it. Constructively involving yourself on the side of life as early as possible will reduce the risk of suicide.
4. Listen.

Give the person every opportunity to unburden his troubles and ventilate his feelings. You don't need to say much and there are no magic words. If you are concerned, your voice and manner will show it. Give him relief from being alone with his pain; let him know you are glad he turned to you. Patience, sympathy, acceptance. Avoid arguments and advice giving.
5. ASK: “Are you having thoughts of suicide?”

Myth: “Talking about it may give someone the idea.” People already have the idea; suicide is constantly in the news media. If you ask a despairing person this question you are doing a good thing for them: you are showing him that you care about him, that you take him seriously, and that you are willing to let him share his pain with you. You are giving him further opportunity to discharge pent up and painful feelings. If the person is having thoughts of suicide, find out how far along his ideation has progressed.
6. If the person is acutely suicidal, do not leave him alone.

If the means are present, try to get rid of them. Detoxify the home.
7. Urge professional help.

Persistence and patience may be needed to seek, engage and continue with as many options as possible. In any referral situation, let the person know you care and want to maintain contact.
8. No secrets.

It is the part of the person that is afraid of more pain that says “Don't tell anyone.” It is the part that wants to stay alive that tells you about it. Respond to that part of the person and persistently seek out a mature and compassionate person with whom you can review the situation. (You can get outside help and still protect the person from pain causing breaches of privacy.) Do not try to go it alone. Get help for the person and for yourself. Distributing the anxieties and responsibilities of suicide prevention makes it easier and much more effective.
9. From crisis to recovery.

Most people have suicidal thoughts or feelings at some point in their lives; yet less than 2% of all deaths are suicides. Nearly all suicidal people suffer from conditions that will pass with time or with the assistance of a recovery program. There are hundreds of modest steps we can take to improve our response to the suicidal and to make it easier for them to seek help. Taking these modest steps can save many lives and reduce a great deal of human suffering.


WARNING SIGNS
Conditions associated with increased risk of suicide

* Death or terminal illness of relative or friend.
* Divorce, separation, broken relationship, stress on family.
* Loss of health (real or imaginary).
* Loss of job, home, money, status, self-esteem, personal security.
* Alcohol or drug abuse.
* Depression. In the young depression may be masked by hyperactivity or acting out behavior. In the elderly it may be incorrectly attributed to the natural effects of aging. Depression that seems to quickly disappear for no apparent reason is cause for concern. The early stages of recovery from depression can be a high risk period. Recent studies have associated anxiety disorders with increased risk for attempted suicide.

Emotional and behavioral changes associated with suicide

* Overwhelming Pain: pain that threatens to exceed the person's pain coping capacities. Suicidal feelings are often the result of longstanding problems that have been exacerbated by recent precipitating events. The precipitating factors may be new pain or the loss of pain coping resources.
* Hopelessness: the feeling that the pain will continue or get worse; things will never get better.
* Powerlessness: the feeling that one's resources for reducing pain are exhausted.
* Feelings of worthlessness, shame, guilt, self-hatred, “no one cares”. Fears of losing control, harming self or others.
* Personality becomes sad, withdrawn, tired, apathetic, anxious, irritable, or prone to angry outbursts.
* Declining performance in school, work, or other activities. (Occasionally the reverse: someone who volunteers for extra duties because they need to fill up their time.)
* Social isolation; or association with a group that has different moral standards than those of the family.
* Declining interest in sex, friends, or activities previously enjoyed.
* Neglect of personal welfare, deteriorating physical appearance.
* Alterations in either direction in sleeping or eating habits.
* (Particularly in the elderly) Self-starvation, dietary mismanagement, disobeying medical instructions.
* Difficult times: holidays, anniversaries, and the first week after discharge from a hospital; just before and after diagnosis of a major illness; just before and during disciplinary proceedings. Undocumented status adds to the stress of a crisis.

Suicidal Behavior

* Previous suicide attempts, “mini-attempts”.
* Explicit statements of suicidal ideation or feelings.
* Development of suicidal plan, acquiring the means, “rehearsal” behavior, setting a time for the attempt.
* Self-inflicted injuries, such as cuts, burns, or head banging.
* Reckless behavior. (Besides suicide, other leading causes of death among young people in New York City are homicide, accidents, drug overdose, and AIDS.) Unexplained accidents among children and the elderly.
* Making out a will or giving away favorite possessions.
* Inappropriately saying goodbye.
* Verbal behavior that is ambiguous or indirect: “I'm going away on a real long trip.”, “You won't have to worry about me anymore.”, “I want to go to sleep and never wake up.”, “I'm so depressed, I just can't go on.”, “Does God punish suicides?”, “Voices are telling me to do bad things.”, requests for euthanasia information, inappropriate joking, stories or essays on morbid themes.

A WARNING ABOUT WARNING SIGNS

The majority of the population at any one time does not have many of the warning signs and has a lower suicide risk rate. But a lower rate in a larger population is still a lot of people - and many completed suicides had only a few of the conditions listed above. In a one person to another person situation, all indications of suicidality need to be taken seriously.

Crisis intervention hotlines that accept calls from the suicidal, or anyone who wishes to discuss a problem, are (in New York City) The Samaritans at 212-673-3000 and Helpline at 212-532-2400.



here is the actual link :- http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/whattodo.htm

please take care and keep us updated

:hugs: ;console;

im sure this is a very stressfull moment for you, but keep calm as much as you can and let him know that he isnt alone, people who are suicidal do require some form of reassurance, and just let him know you are there for him , and no you are not overeacting at all. :hugs:



Desire xxxxxxxx

Reply 10

thanks for the help
i finally got through to my mum and shes phoned the police. so im hoping everything will be ok. his phone is off.
:frown:

Reply 11

Hope it all goes OK =]

xxx

Reply 12

Update?

Reply 13

Here is someone is feeling suicidal call the local doctor, who can chat to them on the phone. Call the local out of hours service.

Reply 14

I had a fight with my boyfriend a couple of weeks ago, before he was meant to go to see his counsellor. It got pretty nasty. Then he said he wanted me to go with him to the counsellor and I said no, because I didn't want to go in a car with him in the state he was in. He said if I didn't go with him he'd crash the car and kill himself, then eventually he went. Anyways upshot is that he did come back from his counselling appointment very much alive. When he was gone I didn't know what to do. Should I have phoned the police? Stopped him from leaving? (Incidentally I couldn't phone anyone because he had the house phone and my mobile in his pocket, but should I have gone to the neighbours or something?) I don't know what I should have done. I didn't do anything and maybe I was lucky to see him again.

Anyways I know the lost feeling. Hope you did the right thing.

Reply 15

la desire good post wish people would actually take notice off it rather then think its cry wolf kinda thing yea they are crying out but for help..

Anon i dont understand how you feel but i understand how your cousin feels its hard thing to deal with, you did right thing maybe keep in contact with them more often chat to them about there problems even if there little problems yes its to much if your at uni/coll/school but thats what he needs seeking professional help is also good BUT it could be to much when i first went i felt like i was mental and i shouldnt seek this kind of help, luckily it got me on my feet (not 100%) i got a name for my problem and i got medication to help me

hope your cousin is fine

Reply 16

Thanks for the help everyone
My cousin did try to kill himself. He took an overdose and slashed his arms up. Needed stitches and is now recovering in hospital - they think he might have liver damage from the pills.
Im going to see him this weekend

Reply 17

Sounds like you were just in time with getting help to him, I hope he recovers quickly and you cope with things ok, pm or msn if you want someone to talk to :smile:

Reply 18

You take care of yourself too.

Reply 19

You did the right thing :smile: :hugs:, I hope he recovers soon, and do look after yourself too.