Are 'social justice warriors' the Western version of religious fundamentalists?

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One of the things that stands out when talking to social justice warriors, is just how utterly narrow, superstitious, ignorant, racist and devoid of context they are....in other words all of the things you would expect from a religious fundamentalist.

Its almost impossible to have a debate with these people because everything they say is a pre-prepared argument which comes directly from 'scripture' given to them by the 'high priests' of the social sciences.

Marx is the god to these people. Despite Marxism being responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths in the 20th century, they still cling on to the promises of paradise handed down by Marxist scripture.

More pathetically, with the rise in social media, these people now have a world view constructed around various Twitter hashtags.

I would be interested in hearing other peoples experiences debating with these people.....For example, i was discussing man made climate change with one of these people, saying that the science is not settled and that the sun clearly has an effect on climate but immediately i got called a 'denier'. In other words, i was called 'heretical'.
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Their pretty much fixated on putting blacks, lesbians and working class northerners in to positions of power regardless of whether they have the inclination or the desire to contribute. They are worrying anti car and often in to that environmental *******s.
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Indeed, they appear to have a rather bizarre faith that the default state of this earth would be a temporal heaven where every race and sex would naturally achieve equal outcomes in every endeavour, were it not for deadly sins such as capitalism, racism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, denial of anthropogenic climate change and, erm, Islamophobia.

The psychology is certainly very similar. The God-shaped hole in atheist socialists is replaced by the State, the rules of religious life by State regulation, and there is an objectively "right" goal ("equality", rather than the kingdom of heaven) and a defined set of rules to get you there (political correctness, re-education camps/diversity training, mass proselytism/propagation of their doctrine from the earliest age/"education" and affirmative action/social engineering). The lynch mob mentality is consistent with this. Is there really a practical difference between committing atrocities because "God" told you to do it, or because the doctrine of the State has declared bearers of heretical opinions to be unworthy?

The punchline is that they are morally preening themselves on account of their "tolerance".
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No, because they are in power (note that they are not really "lefties/Marxists"; economically speaking market fundamentalists are in power).

Religious fundamentalists, however, are a minority in their countries and in their religious communities, except I suppose if you consider the Islamic State a bona fide state.
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Indeed, they appear to have a rather bizarre faith that the default state of this earth would be a temporal heaven where every race and sex would naturally achieve equal outcomes in every endeavour, were it not for deadly sins such as capitalism, racism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, denial of anthropogenic climate change and, erm, Islamophobia.

The psychology is certainly very similar. The God-shaped hole in atheist socialists is replaced by the State, the rules of religious life by State regulation, and there is an objectively "right" goal ("equality", rather than the kingdom of heaven) and a defined set of rules to get you there (political correctness, re-education camps/diversity training, mass proselytism/propagation of their doctrine from the earliest age/"education" and affirmative action/social engineering). The lynch mob mentality is consistent with this. Is there really a practical difference between committing atrocities because "God" told you to do it, or because the doctrine of the State has declared bearers of heretical opinions to be unworthy?

The punchline is that they are morally preening themselves on account of their "tolerance".
All these things are done by market fundamentalists also.
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No, because they are in power (note that they are not really "lefties/Marxists"; economically speaking market fundamentalists are in power).

Religious fundamentalists, however, are a minority in their countries and in their religious communities, except I suppose if you consider the Islamic State a bona fide state.
This is true. The only route to a cushy non-job in the public sector (which for most of these parasites is all they are good for) is to uphold the values of political correctness and push for State engineered "equality" (of outcome) at every opportunity.

Ironically of course most of them appear to consider themselves to be anti-establishment.
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This is true. The only route to a cushy non-job in the public sector (which for most of these parasites, particularly women, is all they are good for) is to uphold the values of political correctness and push for State engineered "equality" (of outcome) at every opportunity.

Ironically of course most of them appear to consider themselves to be anti-establishment.
Why do you hate them more than neo-liberal market fundamentalists?
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Why do you hate them more than neo-liberal market fundamentalists?
I hate them because I don't believe their objectives are desirable or realistic, and as a consequence of their domination of the power structure (and cultural hegemony) are creating a baleful existence for my people and our future generations.

I've never understood what a "neo-liberal" is meant to be, any help?
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Pretty sure the western version of religious fundamentalists are....religious fundamentalists.
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I hate them because I don't believe their objectives are desirable or realistic, and as a consequence of their domination of the power structure (and cultural hegemony) are creating a baleful existence for my people and our future generations.

I've never understood what a "neo-liberal" is meant to be, any help?
Well, neo-liberals in power are the people who have been privatising things for the past thirty or forty years and peddling fake economics like a country's finances are like a household.

Lately the right seem to be trying to deny outright the existence of neo-liberalism, I don't quite understand it.
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Well, neo-liberals in power are the people who have been privatising things for the past thirty or forty years and peddling fake economics like a country's finances are like a household.

Lately the right seem to be trying to deny outright the existence of neo-liberalism, I don't quite understand it.
If that is all you mean then they're only undoing nationalisation which was a failed dogma pursued by left-wing governments earlier in the 20th century. You really believe the State built all that infrastructure in the first place?
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If that is all you mean then they're only undoing nationalisation which was a failed dogma pursued by left-wing governments earlier in the 20th century. You really believe the State built all that infrastructure in the first place?
Yep pretty much, do you have any idea how **** life was before the war and especially before the people's budget? Nationalisation and the welfare state rock

Don't see why giving our infrastructure to some very rich person so they can charge us rent on it is better than giving it to the state
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Yep pretty much, do you have any idea how **** life was before the war and especially before the people's budget? Nationalisation and the welfare state rock

Don't see why giving our infrastructure to some very rich person so they can charge us rent on it is better than giving it to the state
As you are surely aware the State does charge rent, but they call it "tax".
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Their pretty much fixated on putting blacks, lesbians and working class northerners in to positions of power regardless of whether they have the inclination or the desire to contribute. They are worrying anti car and often in to that environmental *******s.
I'm a working-class Northerner...?
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As you are surely aware the State does charge rent, but they call it "tax".
Yeah, and every five years we get to vote on things like how much of it we pay. Also with tax it's not always the normal consumers paying it, some of it is paid, as it should be, by the owners of the means of production.

Even the most privatised state holds assets like land, and the consumptive and labour capacity of its people. And capitalists and the managerial class whinge about having to pay rent (tax) on the profits they derive from use of these assets. If private property holds for private individuals it holds for the state too.
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animal rights activists ?

environmentalists ?

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Their pretty much fixated on putting blacks, lesbians and working class northerners in to positions of power regardless of whether they have the inclination or the desire to contribute. They are worrying anti car and often in to that environmental *******s.
I have never seen SJW types giving a crap about any poor/working class whites, they pretty much dismiss the fact that such people even exist, despite that poor white Britons are statistically one of the most marginalised and disadvantaged demographics in the country, second only to gypsies (many of whom also happen to be white, yay white privilege).
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You seem to be confusing religious fundamentalists with people with firm political beliefs. Also, we have religious fundamentalists in the west too (see: most of the Republican Party).
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lmao, TSR.
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They even have their own uniform

Brightly dyed coloured hair
Thick rimmed glasses
Fat

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