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I mean overall and just for academics, no one cares about stuff like sport
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I mean overall and just for academics, no one cares about stuff like sport
If you by the top unis in world rankings, then the ivy league probably has more of its unis then RG (im not 100% sure of this) but RG has like 20? unis while ivy league is 8..so is it a fair comparision? it can be much harder to get into an ivy league than an RG.
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Ivy League by far.
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Yeah, way more better
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why is this even a q?
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I mean overall and just for academics, no one cares about stuff like sport
Ivy leagues are in league with the likes of Oxford and Cambridge. Are RG's in league with Oxbridge? Does that answer your question?

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Ivy leagues are in league with the likes of Oxford and Cambridge. Are RG's in league with Oxbridge? Does that answer your question?
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Oxford and Cambridge are in the Russell Group, such that, yes, they are "in league with" them.

I think you can likely find from the Russell Group 8 universities to give the Ivy League a run for its money. I'm not a fan of league tables but on that metric - a brute summing of scores - you certainly can.

Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial, LSE, UCL, Edinburgh, Bristol, Manchester
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth
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Oxford and Cambridge are in the Russell Group, such that, yes, they are "in league with" them.

I think you can likely find from the Russell Group 8 universities to give the Ivy League a run for its money. I'm not a fan of league tables but on that metric - a brute summing of scores - you certainly can.

Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial, LSE, UCL, Edinburgh, Bristol, Manchester
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth
Replace Edinburgh with Durham. And I doubt the quality of students at the top RG's are of the same quality as Ivy simply because of a larger talent pool by virtue of there being more people applying.

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Replace Edinburgh with Durham. And I doubt the quality of students at the top RG's are of the same quality as Ivy simply because of a larger talent pool by virtue of there being more people applying.

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Warwick over Manchester
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Replace Edinburgh with Durham. And I doubt the quality of students at the top RG's are of the same quality as Ivy simply because of a larger talent pool by virtue of there being more people applying.

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Edinburgh > Durham

The Ivy Leagues are highly overestimated, let's not forget the UK secondary education system > Amercia's. I'm sure students at the top RG like LSE can easily compete with some of the top Ivy League students, I mean the quality of some students who get into Brown and Cornell on courses like Hospitality and Eastern Asian studies... You just need to do lots and lots of extra curricular activities and their AP exams are no way near as rigorous as our A2's.
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Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial, LSE, UCL, Edinburgh, Bristol, Manchester
uh not so sure about those two. Bristol and UCL are kind of edgy but I'll accept that.

edit: Maybe durham, bath, warwick or saint andrews would be a better replacement.. (even though these are not even close to cam)
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Warwick over Manchester
Warwick is unknown outside of the UK. KCL should be there instead of Manchester.
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uh not so sure about those two. Bristol and UCL are kind of edgy but I'll accept that.
I explicitly said that I was perming from the international league tables "a brute summing of scores".
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Edinburgh > Durham

The Ivy Leagues are highly overestimated, let's not forget the UK secondary education system > Amercia's. I'm sure students at the top RG like LSE can easily compete with some of the top Ivy League students, I mean the quality of some students who get into Brown and Cornell on courses like Hospitality and Eastern Asian studies... You just need to do lots and lots of extra curricular activities and their AP exams are no way near as rigorous as our A2's.
Durham is ranked higher than Edinburgh... and A2 is not rigorous at all... AP calculus BC is is a lot harder than A2 maths. LSE students cannot really compete with the likes of those in Cambridge or Harvard.

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Warwick is unknown outside of the UK. KCL should be there instead of Manchester.
WOAH!!!!!!! No way!
Manchester is in the top 10 worldwide for employer's reputation. Only Oxbridge, Imperial, LSE, Harvard, Melbourne, Stanford, MIT and Berkeley can boast that. This shows they produce world-class graduates which many employers worldwide know about.
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Warwick is unknown outside of the UK. KCL should be there instead of Manchester.
KCL is poor nationally on rankings except medicine, law and war studies. Warwick is known particularly in India and China, which is why it has such a high level of international students from these BRIC countries
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LSE students cannot really compete with the likes of those in Cambridge or Harvard.
While I think this is wrong, we don't need it to be right. For the purpose of this discussion the LSE only has to compete with, its US partner institution, Columbia. Your comment implies that we already have a match for Harvard.
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America tends to have better universities only because of sheer number; there are thousands of them. The Ivy league is typically just a sport league, so there are some big names that aren't in the Ivy League like Stanford. So in general, yes the ivy league universities are better, solely because the universities for the most part in the US are better, but this doesn't make the league itself better than RG.
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Durham is ranked higher than Edinburgh... and A2 is not rigorous at all... AP calculus BC is is a lot harder than A2 maths. LSE students cannot really compete with the likes of those in Cambridge or Harvard.

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I think you've forgotten many of these students have done A2 Further Maths.
Anyway, LSE does better than Cambridge when it comes to Economics, but not as good as Harvard, but close.
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Since is based on funding and research yes they are.
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