Should we teach rap at school?

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Simon Armitage has said that he wants to talk about rap music when he starts to teach at the University of Oxford. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...rary-form.html)

Rap is obviously very popular with young people so should we use it to encourage school students to read more poetry?

There are problems with what would be deemed appropriate re: language and violence and especially sexism but I think that analysing Nas alongside Shelley could help students engage with poetry better.
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I sip the Dom P, watching Gandhi til I'm charged
Then writing in my book of rhymes, all the words past the margin
To hold the mic I'm throbbin', mechanical movement
Understandable smooth ish that murderers move with
The thief's theme - play me at night, they won't act right
The fiend of hip-hop has got me stuck like a crack pipe
The mind activation, react like I'm facing
Time like Pappy Mason, with pens I'm embracing
Wipe the sweat off my dome, spit the phlegm on the streets
Suede Timbs on my feet makes my cipher complete
Whether cruising in a Six cab or Montero Jeep
I can't call it; the beats make me falling asleep
I keep falling, but never falling six feet deep
I'm out for presidents to represent me (say what?)
I'm out for presidents to represent me (say what?)
I'm out for dead presidents to represent me
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(Original post by TomatoLounge)
Simon Armitage has said that he wants to talk about rap music when he starts to teach at the University of Oxford. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...rary-form.html)
Rap is obviously very popular with young people so should we use it to encourage school students to read more poetry?
There are problems with what would be deemed appropriate re: language and violence and especially sexism but I think that analysing Nas alongside Shelley could help students engage with poetry better.
Spoiler:
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I sip the Dom P, watching Gandhi til I'm charged
Then writing in my book of rhymes, all the words past the margin
To hold the mic I'm throbbin', mechanical movement
Understandable smooth ish that murderers move with
The thief's theme - play me at night, they won't act right
The fiend of hip-hop has got me stuck like a crack pipe
The mind activation, react like I'm facing
Time like Pappy Mason, with pens I'm embracing
Wipe the sweat off my dome, spit the phlegm on the streets
Suede Timbs on my feet makes my cipher complete
Whether cruising in a Six cab or Montero Jeep
I can't call it; the beats make me falling asleep
I keep falling, but never falling six feet deep
I'm out for presidents to represent me (say what?)
I'm out for presidents to represent me (say what?)
I'm out for dead presidents to represent me
Would've definitely got me a better grade in English Lit
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There is an element of poetry to rap music, certainly some of the older stuff. But I don't know. I'm not sure it's a good idea.
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It all depends on the person in respects of whether it would help or not. I personally hate rap so if that had been part of my English course i would have probably done a lot worse in it. On the other hand some other people may benefit from it. I think that it's something which maybe people could look into on their own at home when revising but not to have in the main class room.
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I forget how or why exactly she did it but my friend Y who read English at Oxford did do an extended essay/project on Tupac lyrics. Not sure what mark she got for it but I thought it sounded amazing
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Rap has elements of rhyme to it. Rhyme is a form of poetry so in my opinion I'd say yes teach rap. as for language and violence and especially sexism these are unfortunately a part of life and since the people who would be learning at oxford would be of adult age then for them it shouldn't be censored. Of course for younger students an element of censorship would have to be employed. Just my personal opinion.
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I think so.
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