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Reply 1
i plan to look for a part time job too, im not sure how easy it is to get a job, but ur in the middle of london so id imagine there's a wide variety of options. I think your only allowed to work 15 hours a week, it said in one of the booklets they sent, and u dont need a work permit i think (it also said
that)

check this site out http://careersweb.lon.ac.uk/lse/LSEjobonline.asp its got some part time jobs too.

Hope to see u in october
Reply 2
yan2004
i plan to look for a part time job too, im not sure how easy it is to get a job, but ur in the middle of london so id imagine there's a wide variety of options. I think your only allowed to work 15 hours a week, it said in one of the booklets they sent, and u dont need a work permit i think (it also said
that)

check this site out http://careersweb.lon.ac.uk/lse/LSEjobonline.asp its got some part time jobs too.

Hope to see u in october


thanks a lot! ~~~~~ I agree that there should be a lot of opportunities in London as well! by the way, what have you applied to read in lse?
Reply 3
im hoping to read accounting and finance, grades pending. cant wait, altho have to get the grades first. how about u?
Reply 4
yan2004
im hoping to read accounting and finance, grades pending. cant wait, altho have to get the grades first. how about u?


I am going to read Government and Economics and hahah, the same, hopefully I can get the grade - and so do you! =) where are you from?
Reply 5
i live near cambridge and about 45 mins from London of the train, how about u? my parents r from the philippines tho, but im born and bred in the UK. where r u from? R u looking forward to next year, i cant wait seems to be so much to do at LSE and in London.
Reply 6
oh, I am born in Hong Kong but since, hmm, I don't think "Hong Konger" is a very appropriate term to describe my nationality, hmm, so I am a Chinese by race. =)
I started to study in the UK only since the sixth form (i.e. two years ago) in Cheltenham, a 45- minute distance from Birmingham. Oh, isn't Cambridge quite cold in winter? The summer in Cheltenham isn't very nice at present.
The same - I am anxious to stay in a big city like London! =) I really hope to gain more exposure during my university life.
Which residential hall you have chosen?
Reply 7
Its not that cold in winter it varies altho i think it did snow, altho this time last year and last summer was v hot, not so this. dont they have a horse race in Cheltenham? sorry thats the only thing i think i know about the place. i have birmingham down as my insurance. hopefully wont need it.

i applied to bankside too, read in the other thread, great dover and holborn. they seemed the nicest places, and expensive :eek: some of my friends and my gf halls r half the price and r probably gonna be nicer/just as nice and closer thats london for you.

ps i want to learn Chinese and i know there's either Mandarin or Cantonese ( i think), which ones most used and easier to learn/if they r easy to learn at all
Reply 8
hahaha.. what a coincidence! TO be frank, I have also put Birmingham as my insurance choice and oh, well, i hope we don't need Birmingham! by the way, what is your offer?

Oh, no, at last I have put Carr-Saunders as my first choice because my good friend from my present school has chosen that residential hall also~~~~ =) hmm.. also, the fee sounds reasonable enough.... apart from the housing prices, I think London is defintely my most preferable place in London!

yes, horse racing in Cheltenham seems to be a very big event there but hmm, perhaps because in HK horse-racing is regarded as a gamble game that can ruin a family's wealth... so that's why I have been taught not to be in favour of such game but of course, cultural variation is important! =)

Personally, I think Mandarin will be very useful because it is the official language in China and also Taiwan~~~ but among a group of HK people, Cantonese is our mother tongue - this is like local dialect to China~~ =P
I have learnt a bit of French before and would like to take it up again... but indecisive.

Sorry... being such a long message! How many people in your school have been accepted by LSE?
Reply 9
lau_lydia1013

Personally, I think Mandarin will be very useful because it is the official language in China and also Taiwan~~~

just to point out that taiwan is a part of china. :cool:
ybx
just to point out that taiwan is a part of china. :cool:


Surely that depends on the country that you're from? Personally, I see Taiwan as a separate state, although other countries see it as part of China. I'm fairly sure that official UK policy is to see Taiwan as a separate entity to China as well.
Reply 11
i believe the offical policy of US is to see taiwan a part of china, i am not very sure about uk, but i assume it going to be the same.
Yeah:

'The People's Republic of China claims sovereignty over Taiwan and regards Taiwan as a province of China. The United Kingdom acknowledges the position of the Chinese Government that Taiwan is a province of China and recognises the Chinese Government as the sole legal government of China. The United Kingdom does not recognise Taiwan as a state and does not have diplomatic relations with Taiwan. The United Kingdom considers the Taiwan issue is one to be settled by the people on both sides of the Taiwan Straits. We are strongly opposed to any use of force and urge both sides to engage in constructive dialogue.'

Interesting- my organisation (uk.aiesec.org) actually sees Taiwan as being separate to China, yet this isn't the case with the UK as a whole. To be honest I believe it's political- neither the UK nor the US want to antagonise China, so they side with them.
Reply 13
First of all, I would like to clarify that... as Mandarin being an official langauge in Taiwan, it DOESN'T mean that Taiwan is a part of China - I suppose national soverignty should not be ONLY based on a COMMON Language spoken!!!

Secondly, whether Taiwan is part of China... hahaha, is a very interesting question and it depends on where you are, how nationalist you are!! Historically, there has never been a SEPERATION of China and Taiwan VIA POPULAR CONSENT (e.g. referendum) - it is a HISTORICAL LEGACY, a continuation of the Civil War in China~~~~~ but I do reckon, differences in historical, cultural, economical and political oxthodoxy do make "union" harder to achieve~~~

Thirdly, yes, the role of the US... do you think the US president recognise the existence of a Taiwan "PRESIDENT"? I suppose this will give us a clearer clue how other countries solve the dilemma. (NB: is Taiwan recognised as a STATE in the UN and why there is obstacle for her to join the WTO???)

that's my little piece of opinion but frankly..... .. thakns very much for starting such an interesting topic and hahaha, how careless I must have expressed myself! Thanks a lot indeed. =))))
The US provides copious ammounts of military and economic aid to Taiwan, and have pledged to intervene if China should ever try and re-take the island by force. As you can imagine, if this did ever happen, then South East Asia is likely to be plunged into a nuclear holocaust. For this reason, the issue of Taiwan's sovereignty is highly a controversial and sensitive issue. It is widely believed that the present nationalist PM of Taiwan will call a referendum on Taiwan's independence within 4-5 years time.
Reply 15
Well....... Does anyone believe that there will be a nuclear holocaust if China insists of uniting with Taiwan??? (I think this may probably happen in N. Korea!)

Besides, I suppose even China threatens to unite Taiwan by force- (i) to what extent it is only THREAT - i.e. pyschological game or (ii) china will risk to break her human rights record esp. she is seeking a "market economy" status in the WTO and the approval of the EU and the US for this decision? There are always costs as well as benefits in every action and not looking far backward, the Cold War is a war that has never been fought.

True, a referendum is promised but as Chris Pattern has commented on the U-turn of Tony Blair to hold a referendum on the EU Constitutional Treaty in an interview with the Guardian on April, 2004 (okay, let's agree that it is a Treaty, not a Constitution) - a referendum is held because the gov't is weak, not because it is in a strong position. Although there is a high possiblilty that the referendum result is likely to be in favour of Taiwan "independence", it is always subjected to the manipulation of the politicians that a change in the government may lead to another referendum until a result is compatible with the government's objective - e.g. the Irish referenda on the Nice Treaty, 1998. ( NB: esp. there is a political crisis in Taiwan over Mr. Chen's legitimacy of being the "president")

Anyway, that's just my little piece of thoughts, thanks~~~~~~~ =)
lau_lydia1013
Well....... Does anyone believe that there will be a nuclear holocaust if China insists of uniting with Taiwan??? (I think this may probably happen in N. Korea!)

Besides, I suppose even China threatens to unite Taiwan by force- (i) to what extent it is only THREAT - i.e. pyschological game or (ii) china will risk to break her human rights record esp. she is seeking a "market economy" status in the WTO and the approval of the EU and the US for this decision? There are always costs as well as benefits in every action and not looking far backward, the Cold War is a war that has never been fought.

True, a referendum is promised but as Chris Pattern has commented on the U-turn of Tony Blair to hold a referendum on the EU Constitutional Treaty in an interview with the Guardian on April, 2004 (okay, let's agree that it is a Treaty, not a Constitution) - a referendum is held because the gov't is weak, not because it is in a strong position. Although there is a high possiblilty that the referendum result is likely to be in favour of Taiwan "independence", it is always subjected to the manipulation of the politicians that a change in the government may lead to another referendum until a result is compatible with the government's objective - e.g. the Irish referenda on the Nice Treaty, 1998. ( NB: esp. there is a political crisis in Taiwan over Mr. Chen's legitimacy of being the "president")

Anyway, that's just my little piece of thoughts, thanks~~~~~~~ =)


Well, as we all know too well, the Chinese government is rather keen on its rhetoric, so you may be right there! However, the US is certainly not lying when it says it would come to Taiwan's defence in the event of an invasion. There is no reason why the US would want to use its nuclear arsenal under such circumstances, but China is another matter. However, for the reasons you outlined above, hopefully China would realise they had so much to lose and so little to gain, and never contemplate such a move.
Reply 17
savvy10
Well, as we all know too well, the Chinese government is rather keen on its rhetoric, so you may be right there! However, the US is certainly not lying when it says it would come to Taiwan's defence in the event of an invasion. There is no reason why the US would want to use its nuclear arsenal under such circumstances, but China is another matter. However, for the reasons you outlined above, hopefully China would realise they had so much to lose and so little to gain, and never contemplate such a move.


True, I agree with you that the US will not give way unconditionally to let China "takeover" Taiwan, especial under Bush! =) By the way, what have you applied to read in LSE? It sounds like you have a very good sense of judgement on current affairs~~~~~~ =)
Reply 18
in my view taiwan is an example to china of how some sort of market/capitalist economy has worked, along with HK and many of NICs, hence China's major reforms towards some some of market economy in recent times.

however both sides the US [and the EU] do not want to upset China because of its growing economic and trade relations as it is a quite big market. [i beleive the dalai lama paid a visit to the UK a couple of weeks ago, which coincided with the Chinese PM's visit and i beleive blair didnt say "hello" to the dalai lama because of "diary pressures"...ok thats rather cynical] and probably vice versa because of, as already stated China wanting to become more market orientated and also China has nothing really to gain from trying to regain Taiwan by force.

in saying that china's view taiwan is part of china and that they were a bit pissed when the US gave arms to taiwan.

Tbh, dont really know much about it, and these r just my limited opinions.

hmmm all i wanted to do was learn chinese.

ps. as far as i know im the only one from my skool to have been accepted by LSE
China is going to be a huge market, rivalling that of the US within around 35 years time. Obviously, the largest rewards will be for those countries that get in there early. The prospect of trade is always the best way to avoid war, as countries see the economic loss they stand to incur. I think increased trade between the Koreas would help matters greatly.

I havent applied to LSE yet, but I'm going to apply for Economics for admission in 2005. It's just so competitive, I doubt I stand a chance.