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Why do most women hate feminism in dating/relationships?

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Original post by scrotgrot
What angers me is that women's choices to be paet time working housewives maintains the headline gender wage gap which morons quote (even though women who entered tbe workforce after ~1990 are paid better than men). This means idiotic affirmative action pressure that promotes incompetent women over competent men, ruining the management of our most important corporations.


Lol this. Women choose to take more time off etc, hence causing them, on average, to be paid less than men, and then the pay differential is mistakenly used as evidence of discrimination.
Original post by MyGun
No, that is literally the standard of beauty throughout all human history, in every single culture. Just like how tall strong men have always been seen as attractive. It isn't subjective, or due to programming. Although from this behaviour you've been a heavy victim of feminist programming.


If I've been "programmed" to see the beauty in older people, it's clearly a societal construct. You just disproved your own point.
Reply 42
Original post by AnnieGakusei
I used the word "advantages" because I was replying to another poster who said women only look out for women and seek to give them advantage. I do not support advantages or special privileges for women because they are women.


Yet this is exactly what feminism of today does and what modern feminazis want and in many sectors in the workplace have. Only in the dangerous and manual labor sector which they have not touched because let's face it this is not appealing to them.

This is not simply advantages over men this is being given special rights because of the corrupt political pressure they put on companies. Distabalising companies and the work force in the process.
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Reply 43
Original post by AnnieGakusei
If I've been "programmed" to see the beauty in older people, it's clearly a societal construct. You just disproved your own point.


Annie could you name me one movie or one programme you watch because some lady in her elderly years presents or acts in please? I can't think of one.
Original post by Mancini
Yet this is exactly what feminism of today does and what modern feminazis want and in many sectors in the workplace have. Only in the dangerous and manual labor sector which they have not touched because let's face it this is not appealing to them.

This is not simply advantages over men this is being given special rights because of the corrupt political pressure they put in companies. Distabalising companies and the work force in the process.


I have never come across a feminazi before (and I find that phrase incredibly offensive, but let's not go into semantics here) Where can I meet these people, and could you give me an example of a "special right" women have obtained through their threats and clearly enormous political clout?
Reply 45
Original post by AnnieGakusei
If I've been "programmed" to see the beauty in older people, it's clearly a societal construct. You just disproved your own point.

No because you are a woman who has been subjected to feminist brainwashing, this makes anything you say mean less than dirt.
Original post by Mancini
Annie could you name me one movie or one programme you watch because some lady in her elderly years presents or acts in please. I can't think of one.


I'm not a lesbian attracted to older women. :colondollar: I did watch Skyfall more for Judi Dench than anything else though. Regardless of that, I'm pointing out that it's very shallow to avoid something because of the age of its presenter.

These movies and programmes you mentioned are thin on the ground because of discrimination within the media industry, as I said before.
Original post by MyGun
No because you are a woman who has been subjected to feminist brainwashing, this makes anything you say mean less than dirt.


Ah, I wondered when the personal attacks would start. Stop discounting my arguments with "you're brainwashed so I can ignore everything you say and somehow win the argument" and give me proper reasoning.
Reply 48
Original post by AnnieGakusei
Ah, I wondered when the personal attacks would start. Stop discounting my arguments with "you're brainwashed so I can ignore everything you say and somehow win the argument" and give me proper reasoning.

Nah, we gave you fair chances, but the further this thread goes on the more illogical crap comes out your mouth
Original post by MyGun
Nah, we gave you fair chances, but the further this thread goes on the more illogical crap comes out your mouth


Well, I suppose if your side of the debate is lacking, it's a good way to divert the blame for an increasingly circular argument.

Judging by the comments you've been posting on the other thread, you'll grow up eventually.
Reply 50
Original post by AnnieGakusei
I have never come across a feminazi before (and I find that phrase incredibly offensive, but let's not go into semantics here) Where can I meet these people, and could you give me an example of a "special right" women have obtained through their threats and clearly enormous political clout?


Special right to have a baby at any time and get paid for it leaving a large or medium or small company financially worse.

Special right to hide your identity when accusing potentially innocent men of rape.

Special right over an unborn child's life in abortion.

Special right to many women's groups services which many men and young boys in similar situations do not have.

Special right to get housing just because you got pregnant and receive generous benefits after every baby( conservatives have made changes) this practice has been going on for a while though. Try and see if a single men can find housing support.

Last point is not really a special right but still an issue education is way more female based now. Infact in some places they give grants to women in certain subjects just because they are women while the males get nothing.

Is that enough for you?
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Reply 51
Original post by AnnieGakusei
Well, I suppose if your side of the debate is lacking, it's a good way to divert the blame for an increasingly circular argument.

Judging by the comments you've been posting on the other thread, you'll grow up eventually.

You're literally trying to argue that men should find older women attractive bcause its sexist if they don't. That is the pure delusion of what your argument is lmfao
Original post by Mancini
Special right to have a baby at any time and get paid for it leaving a large or medium or small company financially worse.

Special right to hide your identity when accusing potentially innocent men of rape.

Special right over an unborn child's life in abortion.

Special right to many women's groups services which many men and young boys in similar situations do not have.

Special right to get housing just because you got pregnant and receive generous benefits after every baby( conservatives have made changes) this practice has been going on for a while though. Try and see if a single men can find housing support.

Last point is not really a special right but still an issue education is way more female based now. Infact in some places they give grants to women in certain subjects just because they are women while the males get nothing.

Is that enough for you?


1. Well, since it's a biological function of women to have babies (which men don't have) you have to accommodate certain differences.

2. I'd hope that male rape victims got the same privilege. Which I would guess is the case, so not just women here.

3. Again, women have the babies. It would be nonsensical for the man to have the ultimate call on the woman's body.

4. This one is fair enough, I don't think it's right either.

5. How can you treat a woman exactly the same as a man when she has a different physiology? Besides, women have the babies, single mothers end up raising them. Which is better - to have young children on the streets, or to provide a house for them?

The last issue, I'd say was due to trying to encourage women to go into certain subject areas and not be limited. But I don't agree with the grants.
Original post by MyGun
You're literally trying to argue that men should find older women attractive bcause its sexist if they don't. That is the pure delusion of what your argument is lmfao


I'm saying it's sexist to kick a woman out of a media role once she is over the age of about 30 but not do the same to a man. Newsreaders, for instance, are not there for decoration. So a woman should be able to do the same job as a man in that role for the same amount of time.

As for films - why is it unacceptable for older women to have equally good roles as older men do?
Reply 54
Original post by AnnieGakusei
I'm not a lesbian attracted to older women. :colondollar: I did watch Skyfall more for Judi Dench than anything else though. Regardless of that, I'm pointing out that it's very shallow to avoid something because of the age of its presenter.

These movies and programmes you mentioned are thin on the ground because of discrimination within the media industry, as I said before.


There is no way I will believe you watched Skyfall because of Judi Dench lol she has like 4 lines in the whole movie cut the crap.

I'm not sure what you mean by thin on the ground you have no clear evidence for discrimination. You can not even accuse the majority of men for discriminating against older women, many men and young fellas are attracted to mature women does not mean they will go watch a film simply because a mature women is in it.

What's sad is your dreadful answer to my question I don't even believe you believe in your own position.

I'm a young guy and used to watch that religious show with Gloria Hunniford on a Sunday, I watch Wimbledon presented by Sue Barker. Age is not really a problem then again I watch these programmes for content not entertainment. You are clutching at straws.

I know very well there are many female writers why don't you ask female writers why they are not writing more roles for older women? It's just easier for you to blame the media instead if actually doing real research and it's embarrassing.
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Reply 55
Original post by AnnieGakusei
I'm saying it's sexist to kick a woman out of a media role once she is over the age of about 30 but not do the same to a man. Newsreaders, for instance, are not there for decoration. So a woman should be able to do the same job as a man in that role for the same amount of time.

As for films - why is it unacceptable for older women to have equally good roles as older men do?

No it isn't, actors are there to earn money, if their work over 30 doesn't earn money its perfectly justifiable to kick them out. its a business.
Reply 56
Original post by AnnieGakusei
1. Well, since it's a biological function of women to have babies (which men don't have) you have to accommodate certain differences.

2. I'd hope that male rape victims got the same privilege. Which I would guess is the case, so not just women here.

3. Again, women have the babies. It would be nonsensical for the man to have the ultimate call on the woman's body.

4. This one is fair enough, I don't think it's right either.

5. How can you treat a woman exactly the same as a man when she has a different physiology? Besides, women have the babies, single mothers end up raising them. Which is better - to have young children on the streets, or to provide a house for them?

The last issue, I'd say was due to trying to encourage women to go into certain subject areas and not be limited. But I don't agree with the grants.


Well here as a woman you mention the fact women are physically different and ask me how can we treat the two sexes the same yet this is exactly what feminists of today want. They even want to go as far as destroying gender itself.

To your question 5

If you cannot provide for a child do not have a baby. You feminists are so big on abortion and women being in control of her own body well be in control of it when you have babies in life, it's not that hard a choice. Why should the tax payer be forced to raise your child because of your decision?
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Reply 57
Original post by AnnieGakusei
I have never come across a feminazi before (and I find that phrase incredibly offensive, but let's not go into semantics here) Where can I meet these people, and could you give me an example of a "special right" women have obtained through their threats and clearly enormous political clout?


Annie, you still haven't answered my question (along with avoiding some other posts I made): where are these countries where unambitious, short men who wait for women to ask them out are incredibly popular with local women?
Original post by Anunaki
Annie, you still haven't answered my question (along with avoiding some other posts I made): where are these countries where unambitious, short men who wait for women to ask them out are incredibly popular with local women?


I apologise for not answering your question; I had to leave my computer and ended up receiving so many notifs through being quoted I overlooked replying to some of them.

I was trying (probably not very successfully I'm afraid) to make a point about gender roles being different in other countries and the argument ended up becoming about something else especially as more members became involved. My original stance on the matter was not trying to be oppositional, merely offering the idea that women may not be as forthcoming in matters of a romantic nature because they are socialised differently from men (although I'm sure it's a combination of factors which could possibly have links to biologically, but I feel it's probably mainly down to socialisation)

Attempting to reply to your other posts within this one, I would also further that argument by saying girls are still encouraged to be feminine and passivity appears to be interlinked with feminine behaviour. Yes, some female role models are aggressively sexual, but could this just be an extension of female insecurity rather than empowerment?
Original post by zippity.doodah
the "glass ceiling" concept is a concept that was created by kate millet, a radical feminist. why should we take radical feminists, regarding gender-equality, seriously, when many feminists say "those aren't real feminists"? if there is a glass ceiling, it's more of a "glass screen of apathy" on the part of women who prefer not to work unsociable hours, take less holidays, take no maternity leave, take less part time work and more full time work, etc


I notice that you didn't actually name any female CEO's. You simply launched an attack on the progenitor of the idea and used that to cast doubt on the idea. I'm not saying Kate Millet isn't a radical feminist, but the glass ceiling is still an idea that ought to be taken seriously.

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