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So I'm new to this just wanna see how it works. I was looking for advice on jobs in Medway but thought it would be better to use a story about David Cameron that a lot of people would have view on.

So yeah...what everyones views on the whatsapp ban?
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**** that!
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its not going to get banned
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They aren't banning whatsapp. They want providers of encrypted message services (like whatsapp) to create back doors to allow intelligence agencies to view the messages.
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It's not going to happen
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if whatsapp, snapchat andimessage are not willing to come to the restriction agreement they will ban them. theres no way to be certain that all of them will stay
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They aren't going to ban it, the bill simply gives the government the ability to smack down companies who don't play ball with our security services.
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so say the people who have founded the apps that have restrictions the their users privacy refuse to give the government the right to invade that privacy... what happens then? it certain they will get banned
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Yeh if for whatever reason whatsapp are still adamant about not giving intelligence agents a backdoor to their message encryption. It will then be promptly replaced by another opportunistic company that will actually abide by the laws providing the exact same service.
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so like a copy of the app with they exact same contents that whatsapp provides us with?
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(Original post by jimi191)
Yeh if for whatever reason whatsapp are still adamant about not giving intelligence agents a backdoor to their message encryption. It will then be promptly replaced by another opportunistic company that will actually abide by the laws providing the exact same service.
Considering whatsapp are abiding by the law, this post is a bit strange.

What the government is essentially saying, is that they want to be able to see in plain every message anyone sends ever.

Using the pretense that terrorists use whatsapp to plan attacks.

It's an extremely controversial topic, some believe that if you have nothing to hide it doesn't matter, others argue that the government should not be so intrusive
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(Original post by its_bethanyy)
so say the people who have founded the apps that have restrictions the their users privacy refuse to give the government the right to invade that privacy... what happens then? it certain they will get banned
No. The government cannot simply ban an app because they aren't doing what they want. It would cause a massive public backlash
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Pretty much, nothing that whatsapp does is special and it could be recreated and most likely would be extremely quickly in this country purely due to the financial opportunity whatsapp being banned in a developed country would bring. It's not going to get to that though, whatsapp are simply holding out for as long as they can to save face.
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(Original post by tim_123)
Considering whatsapp are abiding by the law, this post is a bit strange.

What the government is essentially saying, is that they want to be able to see in plain every message anyone sends ever.

Using the pretense that terrorists use whatsapp to plan attacks.

It's an extremely controversial topic, some believe that if you have nothing to hide it doesn't matter, others argue that the government should not be so intrusive
I meant more when the communications bill is modified at which point if whatsapp refuse to allow intelligence agencies to monitor communication using their service then they would be in breach of the law.

It is extremely controversial but as the Tories have stated they are going forward with it and since they are the government now it's pretty much going to happen unless someone high up makes a very compelling argument it shouldn't.
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No. The government cannot simply ban an app because they aren't doing what they want. It would cause a massive public backlash
that was their initial idea...whether they've come to some understanding of the damage it would do i dont know but i still think that the conservatives have thought that the people who voted for them (which was quite a chunk of england) will back up their point of banning the apps that wont let them see what we send to one another. which is delusional if you ask me because no one is going to freely give up their privacy for an app.
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Yeh if for whatever reason whatsapp are still adamant about not giving intelligence agents a backdoor to their message encryption. It will then be promptly replaced by another opportunistic company that will actually abide by the laws providing the exact same service.
The problem is that you can't provide a backdoor for end to end encryption without risking the security of everyone else.
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The problem is that you can't provide a backdoor for end to end encryption without risking the security of everyone else.
Well obviously the same vulnerability used by intelligence agencies could be used by another group if they had the resources. Unfortunately that's just something you are going to have to accept however you really shouldn't be sending any personal or valuable information through whatsapp, although it might seem it due to this whole issue it really isn't that secure.
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