Bradford better than Oxford and Cambridge?

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Bradford has better 'graduate prospects' than Oxford and Cambridge for those taking chemistry.

There's loads more examples in this article (university courses that beat Oxbridge): http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...-Oxbridge.html

So why are Oxford and Cambridge so much more competitive? Perhaps some students are just attracted by the 'name'...
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Because Oxbridge people are overqualified for some jobs maybe
If you tried to show off your Cambridge phd mathematics degree while employing for a job as a primary school teacher or something they might reject you just on the basis that you wont stay there for more than a few years because you will try to do something else with your degree
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Because the percentage alone does not tell us anything significant and is an extremely broad measure. If you go to LinkedIn and look at the actual companies the graduates of different universities tend to work in, you will quickly notice the difference.
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Because I don't even know where to start with this.
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it's a brand

it's like people who wear nike and expensive clothing

Bradford is the primark,

but there's nothing wrong with this
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you are an individual

you will be judged on who you are and what you are ultimately

your uni choice only slightly represents this
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Because a lot of oxbridge (esp science) grads go into further study.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...?frame=2336903

Although Cambridge tops the table overall for chemistry, when it comes to graduate prospects both Oxbridge universities are bested by Bath and Bradford. At Bath, programmes including a year abroad or industrial placement are on offer, and there are a number of joint programme pathways to consider. The University of Bradford ranks highly for student satisfaction and offers specialist pathways which provide specific training in major employment sectors, including the pharmaceutical and forensic sectors.
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(Original post by University of Bradford)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...?frame=2336903

Although Cambridge tops the table overall for chemistry, when it comes to graduate prospects both Oxbridge universities are bested by Bath and Bradford. At Bath, programmes including a year abroad or industrial placement are on offer, and there are a number of joint programme pathways to consider. The University of Bradford ranks highly for student satisfaction and offers specialist pathways which provide specific training in major employment sectors, including the pharmaceutical and forensic sectors.
You are trying way too hard to justify that ranking.

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it's a brand

it's like people who wear nike and expensive clothing

Bradford is the primark,

but there's nothing wrong with this
lol oh my god
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(Original post by University of Bradford)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...?frame=2336903

Although Cambridge tops the table overall for chemistry, when it comes to graduate prospects both Oxbridge universities are bested by Bath and Bradford. At Bath, programmes including a year abroad or industrial placement are on offer, and there are a number of joint programme pathways to consider. The University of Bradford ranks highly for student satisfaction and offers specialist pathways which provide specific training in major employment sectors, including the pharmaceutical and forensic sectors.
Would I be excepted into chemistry at bradford with a C in chemisty?
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(Original post by TunaTunnel)
Would I be excepted into chemistry at bradford with a C in chemisty?
A Level applicants interested in our Chemistry BSc (Hons) course are required to achieve 260 UCAS points to include Chemistry at grade B or above, and preferably a second science subject. Additionally all applicants will need GCSE English, Maths and a science at grade C or above.

I hope you've found this information helpful and if you have any further questions relating to this course or the University of Bradford please feel free to get in touch.
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(Original post by swiftylol)
Because a lot of oxbridge (esp science) grads go into further study.
I'm pretty sure those statistics include people who go into further study.
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lol oh my god
if you were blindfolded

spent one day in bradford uni

one day in oxford

didn't know which was which, you would say the education you got was probably the same in quality
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The measure used for "graduate prospects" in these tables is usually garbage. It usually focuses on % of graduates employed, as if getting a job at Goldman Sachs is equivalent to working for a regional accountancy firm.
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if you were blindfolded

spent one day in bradford uni

one day in oxford

didn't know which was which, you would say the education you got was probably the same in quality
If you are saying what I think you are saying, I agree with you. I am not sure I understand what you meant when you compared Bradfor dto Primark though. =o
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(Original post by poohat)
The measure used for "graduate prospects" in these tables is usually garbage. It usually focuses on % of graduates employed, as if getting a job at Goldman Sachs is equivalent to working for a regional accountancy firm.
Yeah but it's somewhat more verifiable via unistats, in this case triple the percentage of Bradford chemistry grads get into directly relevant positions as Cambridge NatSci grads and over 6 times the percentage of Oxford Chem grads. While that doesn't show the kind of work they're getting, I think most would agree that getting relevant work is more important.
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Maybe the Oxbridge grads are well off and don't need to work/work for family business?
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I don't know if Bradford indeed has better career prospects, but this alone is insufficient information to make that claim.

You need to also check for example how many graduates there are in all three universities from those courses, how much money they actually earn, and if Oxbridge got a lower score only because a larger percentage didn't pick up a graduate job.

The overall data also contradicts the data the universities publish themselves, because the the Complete University Guide does not use the pure employment rate, but modified it.

'The number of graduates who take up employment or further study divided by the total number of graduates with a known destination expressed as a percentage. Only employment in an area that normally recruits graduates was included. The results were then adjusted to take account of the subject mix at the university.'
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(Original post by democracyforum)
if you were blindfolded

spent one day in bradford uni

one day in oxford

didn't know which was which, you would say the education you got was probably the same in quality
Doubt it.

Does Bradford has a tutorial system like Oxford does?
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