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Reply 1

Technically he never gets there- every jump halves the distance, but the frog will end up jumping an infinitesimally small distance... then half that... then a microscopic distance... then half that... technically he can't get to the edge.

Reply 2

Lusus Naturae
As nn \rightarrow \infty,
Unparseable latex formula:

\large \displaystyle \Sum^{n}_{r=1} \frac{1}{r+1} \rightarrow 1


Nice try, nerdy!

Reply 3

FadeToBlackout
Technically he never gets there- every jump halves the distance, but the frog will end up jumping an infinitesimally small distance... then half that... then a microscopic distance... then half that... technically he can't get to the edge.


Not if he makes it to the edge before he ends up doing that. I don't know if he does, but still.

EDIT: It would appear he doesn't make it. Never mind.

Reply 4

Whoa!

I haven't done maths in 6/7 years, that looks like garbage to me!

Does it really never get there? I was under the impression that there was a definitive answer.

I've been told the definite answer is 41. But no idea how you get there, can anyone explain?!

Reply 5

BombShell
Whoa!

I haven't done maths in 6/7 years, that looks like garbage to me!

That is because it was garbage. :redface:

Reply 6

Lusus Naturae
That is because it was garbage. :redface:


Ah, whoops :blush:

Reply 7

Good old Zeno and his ugly paradoxes again.

Reply 8

Juwel
Good old Zeno and his ugly paradoxes again.


Well, the reason I posted was because it was in a Mensa book, and we've put the question on something, and then subsequently lost the book.

So everyone here was working on the Xeno's paradox theory, in that each time the frog halves the distance between itself and the destination. You can't divide the distance by 2 and reach it, instead you'd just get very very close.

However, it has been found in the last few minutes, and it just says the answer is 41.:confused:

Reply 9

He never gets there, cos he lands in the water, and you can't jump on water.

Reply 10

No, it's definitely not that, it's either 41, or never.

The book says 41 but has no explanation of how that would be!

Reply 11

The answer is never. However, there may be a point where the numbers get so small that you allowed to round up or get frisky with error margins :confused:

Taken literaly, it is impossible for him to ever reach the bank.

Reply 12

Well after 41 jumps, he'd still have a whole 1.354e-12 metres to go. If you wish to count that as at the bank, so be it, but why would he not be there with only 2.728e-12 metres left (40 jumps)??

Stupid book.

Reply 13

Notebooksecrets
He never gets there, cos he lands in the water, and you can't jump on water.


I agree. Enough of all this smelly maths and equasions. Frog lands in water. The End.

Reply 14

King Leigh
Well after 41 jumps, he'd still have a whole 1.354e-12 metres to go. If you wish to count that as at the bank, so be it, but why would he not be there with only 2.728e-12 metres left (40 jumps)??

Stupid book.



Lol, I agree! Despite it being a Mensa book.

We printed this brainteaser in a newsletter and now I have no idea what answer I should write. All the book says is 'the answer is 41.'

Not very helpful, an idea of how they get to that/equation etc would be nice!

Reply 15

Ignore the book's answer. It is wrong, if the question is to be taken literaly.

Just post "never" as your answer, and explain why.

Reply 16

Huzzah! I can do maffs, me! :biggrin:

Reply 17

Schmokie Dragon
Ignore the book's answer. It is wrong, if the question is to be taken literaly.

Just post "never" as your answer, and explain why.


That'll do it.
And next time, check and record the answer to your brainteasers before you post them!

Reply 18

The answer is 41 actually.

He has to cover a distance of 6m in total. He initially covers 3m and then covers 1/2x + 1/4x + 1/8x+1/16x..

If you calculate it till the 41st degree you'll find you get 6m.

Reply 19

Are you sure?

If the first jump covers half of the distance, and every jump after that halves, surely the sum of all the following jumps can't be more than first (so never making the remaining 3m)?

Like binary numbers... each number is half of the last, and the sum of all the preceding number make exactly one less than it. So 8 > 4 + 2 + 1 or 512 > 256 + 128 + 64 + 32 ...
In the same vein, surely 6 > 6/2 + 6/4 + 6/8 ... ?