Bunthulhu in pain!

Well I dont really have much medical or drug related backgrounds so I cant really help you :frown:

But just wanted to say I hope you get better soon :p:

And maybe see a doctor if your symptoms persist to an extreme degree?

xx

Reply 2

OP

Aww, thanks. I'll have to go again if it gets much worse but the doctor has told me there's nothing she can do except advise 'paracetemol and fluids'. A friend who had a terrible viral infection last year said my symptoms are exactly the same as hers and there was nothing she could do :frown:

Reply 3

Talya

16

Dispense with the sinus stuff and perhaps go for a painkiller with paracetamol and codeine?

I've had blocked sinuses since last april and I find anything that says is a sinus decongestant still doesn't work.

Reply 4

OP

Talya

Dispense with the sinus stuff and perhaps go for a painkiller with paracetamol and codeine?

I've had blocked sinuses since last april and I find anything that says is a sinus decongestant still doesn't work.

Thanks, that's a good idea, my mom probably has some. It's just that it's too soon to take anything else paracetemol-based and I really need something right now :frown:

Reply 5

Revenged

15

bunthulhu

or anything containing pseudo-something; fair enough.

pseudoephedrine... it is is a decongestant to unblock the nose... it's in the decongestant medication you're taking...

but important - don't take the decongestant with the co-codamol together...

they both contain paracetamol in and you don't want to overdose on paracetamol...

Reply 6

OP

Revenged

pseudoephedrine... it is is a decongestant to unblock the nose... it's in the decongestant medication you're taking...

but important - don't take the decongestant with the co-codamol together...

they both contain paracetamol in and you don't want to overdose on paracetamol...

Sorry, what's co-codamol? It's not in the ibuprofen is it?

Reply 7

Jennybean

Revenged

pseudoephedrine... it is is a decongestant to unblock the nose... it's in the decongestant medication you're taking...

but important - don't take the decongestant with the co-codamol together...

they both contain paracetamol in and you don't want to overdose on paracetamol...

Correctamundo. Bunthulhu, the reason it says not to take anything containing pseudoephedrine is because you will generally not find an over-the-counter medicine containing this which doesn't also contain paracetamol. Paracetamol is what you need to watch out you don't overdose on. Ibuprofen is an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) so will not contrubute to your paracetamol intake if that makes sense. They work in different ways so the two are perfectly safe to take together. In other words, go ahead and have your ibuprofen, just make sure you keep a note of what you took when so you don't accidentally overdose on anything. If non-prescribed medicines aren't doing the trick, see your doctor so they can prescribe something a bit stronger.

Reply 8

OP

Jennybean

Correctamundo. Bunthulhu, the reason it says not to take anything containing pseudoephedrine is because you will generally not find an over-the-counter medicine containing this which doesn't also contain paracetamol. Paracetamol is what you need to watch out you don't overdose on. Ibuprofen is an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) so will not contrubute to your paracetamol intake if that makes sense. They work in different ways so the two are perfectly safe to take together. In other words, go ahead and have your ibuprofen, just make sure you keep a note of what you took when so you don't accidentally overdose on anything. If non-prescribed medicines aren't doing the trick, see your doctor so they can prescribe something a bit stronger.

Thank you very much - rep coming your way as soon as I can. :smile:

Reply 9

Jennybean

bunthulhu

Thank you very much - rep coming your way as soon as I can. :smile:

Thanks, no need for that, hope you get better soon. Btw, co-codamol is just another name for the combination of codeine phosphate and paracetamol that Talya referred to but you had already said you knew that the original decongestant contained paracetamol so that wasn't an option, revenged probably just didn't spot it. So you don't need to worry about that in reference to the ibuprofen but once you've gone the recommended time between paracetamol doses perhaps a co-codamol might help more than the painkillers you've tried already. Worth a try anyway.

Reply 10

Revenged

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Jennybean

Ibuprofen is an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug) so will not contrubute to your paracetamol intake if that makes sense. They work in different ways so the two are perfectly safe to take together.

Since you seem to know what you are talking about...

I just wanted to point out that the mechanism of action aren't all that different...

Aspirin and ibuprofen both are pain killers that reduce inflammation, which is why they are both non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs... They work by inhibiting the enzyme cycloxygenase (COX)...

Paracetamol is not non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs becuase it does not reduce inflammation... but they do act as pain killers... and they also work by inhibiting the enzme COX... the only difference is that paracetamol only acts on the central nervous system...

Given the similarity of the drugs... I don't really understand why people are so frequently told to take paracetamol and ibuprofen together... I personally would never do so... for mild pain i take either one or the other but not both... and if i had severe pain i would take something with an opioid in such as co-codamol... but perhaps that's just me...

Reply 11

987436987097643123245

Go to the doctors!

Reply 12

bunnycatkid

I had a really high fever last summer and my auntie who is a doctor told me to take paracetamol and then iboprufen 2 hours later, so its probs ok to take your sinus stuff with ibroprufen, just wait a bit, and go to the docs for some stronger stuff if it doesnt go away!

Reply 13

Jennybean

Revenged

Since you seem to know what you are talking about...

I just wanted to point out that the mechanism of action aren't all that different...

Aspirin and ibuprofen both are pain killers that reduce inflammation, which is why they are both non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs... They work by inhibiting the enzyme cycloxygenase (COX)...

Paracetamol is not non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs becuase it does not reduce inflammation... but they do act as pain killers... and they also work by inhibiting the enzme COX... the only difference is that paracetamol only acts on the central nervous system...

Given the similarity of the drugs... I don't really understand why people are so frequently told to take paracetamol and ibuprofen together... I personally would never do so... for mild pain i take either one or the other but not both... and if i had severe pain i would take something with an opioid in such as co-codamol... but perhaps that's just me...

Are you doing pharmacy or something? You certainly know your stuff. I think the reason it's ok to take both is because it's not an excess of the pain-killing mechanism that is the crux of adverse side effects in the event of an overdose but the damage caused to the liver, or in the case of NSAIDs, the gastrointestinal system. Hence why the two compliment each other to alleviate pain but do not contribute to any damage done outside of that mechanism. I could be wrong though, I won't do my pharmacology module til the third year.

Reply 14

Robbolo

Is ickle Bunthulhu feeling any better yet? :redface:

Reply 15

OP

Brummyman

Go to the doctors!

As I said in my post, I've been. :smile:

bunnycatkid

I had a really high fever last summer and my auntie who is a doctor told me to take paracetamol and then iboprufen 2 hours later, so its probs ok to take your sinus stuff with ibroprufen, just wait a bit, and go to the docs for some stronger stuff if it doesnt go away!

Thanks very much, this is what I ended up doing and it helped a lot! :biggrin:

Jennybean and Revenged, thank you very much for your responses, although I can't quite follow some of it; I appreciate the medical wisdom! :p:

Robbolo; Bunthulhu took some ibuprofen at 3pm and some sinus meds a couple of hours later and she's still feeling pretty good - a LOT better than before at least! My face feels a bit weird and sore again though so I'll probably take something else before bed as the pain seems to be worst at night! :frown:

Reply 16

dh00001

16

im in pain too :biggrin:

i broke my hand last night and slipped on it again tonight.
hope you feel bteter :smile:

and dont forget about extra contraception :p:

Reply 17

Robbolo