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"The British Empire will rise again"

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Original post by N-R-G
Good. LoL :smile:


Haha, I think my choosing Clement Attlee (the UK Prime Minister who began the decolonisation process by granting Indian Independence) for my avatar shows that I'm not a raving imperialist. :redface:
Original post by RayApparently
Me? As in myself personally lol?


Yeah Socialists and Liberals like you.
Original post by democracyforum
When the world wanted rights, who wrote Magna Carta?

When they wanted representation, who built the first Parliament?

When they looked for compassion, who led the abolition of slavery?

When they searched for equality, who gave women the vote?

When their freedom was in peril, who offered blood, toil, tears and sweat?

And today - whose music do they dance to?

Whose universities do they flock to?

Whose football league do they watch?

Whose example of tolerance of people living together from every nation, every religion, young and old, straight and gay?

Whose example do they aspire to?

yes, we will rise again


I hate patriotic drivel as it's delusional BS most of the time but this is so true, Britain is a great place lol
Original post by RayApparently
Haha, I think my choosing Clement Attlee (the UK Prime Minister who began the decolonisation process by granting Indian Independence) for my avatar shows that I'm not a raving imperialist. :redface:


That automatically made me like you better, no offence William :biggrin:
Original post by william walker
Yeah Socialists and Liberals like you.


Ahhh I see.
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Original post by RayApparently
Haha, I think my choosing Clement Attlee (the UK Prime Minister who began the decolonisation process by granting Indian Independence) for my avatar shows that I'm not a raving imperialist. :redface:


Likewise my most famous ancestor Sir Conrad Corfield was head of the Indian Political Service and saw in the end of British India. No I'm not an Imperialist to the extent that I saw the USSR as an Empire and ideologically wrong.
hopefully not.
Original post by TheonlyMrsHolmes
That automatically made me like you better, no offence William :biggrin:


Yeah well. May grandmothers family on my mothers side were forced to leave India in 1947 after she was born their and her father worked on the railways for 20 years as a station master. So no offence but Attlee was terrible. You do realise that 2 million Indians died because the Indian independence undertake by Attlee don't you? Attlee did it to save money so he could setup his socialist programs in Britain. :angry:
Original post by william walker
Yeah well. May grandmothers family on my mothers side were forced to leave India in 1947 after she was born their and her father worked on the railways for 20 years as a station master. So no offence but Attlee was terrible. You do realise that 2 million Indians died because the Indian independence undertake by Attlee don't you? Attlee did it to save money so he could setup his socialist programs in Britain. :angry:


Attlee was a great man, I hope your not just stating the Indian facts because you know I'm indian, that doesn't change my opinion at all on him.
Original post by N-R-G
Likewise my most famous ancestor Sir Conrad Corfield was head of the Indian Political Service and saw in the end of British India. No I'm not an Imperialist to the extent that I saw the USSR as an Empire and ideologically wrong.


Oh wow :smile: I don't really have any famous ancestors haha Perhaps I should do something so my descendants have one :laugh:
Original post by william walker
Yeah well. May grandmothers family on my mothers side were forced to leave India in 1947 after she was born their and her father worked on the railways for 20 years as a station master. So no offence but Attlee was terrible. You do realise that 2 million Indians died because the Indian independence undertake by Attlee don't you? Attlee did it to save money so he could setup his socialist programs in Britain. :angry:


Also William, a lot happened to Indians and many others in other countries under the British rule. Just saying it how it is.
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Original post by RayApparently
Oh wow :smile: I don't really have any famous ancestors haha Perhaps I should do something so my descendants have one :laugh:


I'm just lucky to have the Corfields as my ancestors they're quite illustrious.
Go for it! :biggrin:
Original post by N-R-G
I'm just lucky to have the Corfields as my ancestors they're quite illustrious.
Go for it! :biggrin:


I'll have to take a look at some of those wiki pages. :h: History's always so interesting.
I think it's very dishonest and confusing to approach this topic from the current perspective.

The Great Britain is among the top if not on the top of several very important lists connected to human rights, prosperity and progressiveness. It's one of the world's leading nations in maternity leave, giving 52 weeks, or an entire year, to newfangled mothers. Britain is one of the most open and progressive nations when it comes to recognition and support of LGBT people and their rights. By Education Index, Britain possess a score of 0.860, one of the highest in the world. In practice, British educational system, especially on University level, is praised and heralded as being highly modernistic and open to new ideas and ways of learning. World Health System constantly ranks Britain's health system as one of the best, ahead of countries such as the US, Canada, Germany and Australia.

Despite losing its Empire, Britain is a country which no doubts lives up to the "Great" in its name. It might not be the absolute military and economic juggernaut it once was, but its still one of the best places to live in our day and age, no matter what factors you decide to take into account.
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Original post by RayApparently
I'll have to take a look at some of those wiki pages. :h: History's always so interesting.


I never knew about my families history until I asked it all came as quite a surprise to me though my direct line of Corfields ancestry is quite murky and explains why we're relatively poor. :smile: :s-smilie::frown:

History makes us what we are though, to be sure.
Why would we want that.
Original post by N-R-G
I never knew about my families history until I asked it all came as quite a surprise to me though my direct line of Corfields ancestry is quite murky and explains why we're relatively poor. :smile: :s-smilie::frown:

History makes us what we are though, to be sure.


Oh I see, have you read the book Conrad wrote?
Reply 57
Original post by Withengar
I think it's very dishonest and confusing to approach this topic from the current perspective.

The Great Britain is among the top if not on the top of several very important lists connected to human rights, prosperity and progressiveness. It's one of the world's leading nations in maternity leave, giving 52 weeks, or an entire year, to newfangled mothers. Britain is one of the most open and progressive nations when it comes to recognition and support of LGBT people and their rights. By Education Index, Britain possess a score of 0.860, one of the highest in the world. In practice, British educational system, especially on University level, is praised and heralded as being highly modernistic and open to new ideas and ways of learning. World Health System constantly ranks Britain's health system as one of the best, ahead of countries such as the US, Canada, Germany and Australia.

Despite losing its Empire, Britain is a country which no doubts lives up to the "Great" in its name. It might not be the absolute military and economic juggernaut it once was, but its still one of the best places to live in our day and age, no matter what factors you decide to take into account.


PRSOM
Well said though.
Reply 58
Original post by RayApparently
Oh I see, have you read the book Conrad wrote?


No, I haven't I must get it out at the library. I do have Justin Corfield's book -The Corfields which is a definitive book of our family history.
Original post by N-R-G
No, I haven't I must get it out at the library. I do have Justin Corfield's book -The Corfields which is a definitive book of our family history.


Fair enough.
(googled it - 900 years, daaaamn haha)

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