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All I listen to is 80s/90s Hip Hop because all the new stuff that comes through nowadays is whack. I miss the days of CL Smooth and Pete Rock, Gang Starr, Black Moon, Big Pun, Big L and Arrested Development. It truly saddens me that, instead of rapping about their life and struggles, it's now purely about money, sex and power.

Why and how did it all change?
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(Original post by VotreAltesse)
All I listen to is 80s/90s Hip Hop because all the new stuff that comes through nowadays is whack. I miss the days of CL Smooth and Pete Rock, Gang Starr, Black Moon, Big Pun, Big L and Arrested Development. It truly saddens me that, instead of rapping about their life and struggles, it's now purely about money, sex and power.

Why and how did it all change?
There is loads of good Hip Hop now that doesn't rap about what you describe.
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There is loads of good Hip Hop now that doesn't rap about what you describe.

Like?

Find something that's as good or better than this
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(Original post by VotreAltesse)
All I listen to is 80s/90s Hip Hop because all the new stuff that comes through nowadays is whack. I miss the days of CL Smooth and Pete Rock, Gang Starr, Black Moon, Big Pun, Big L and Arrested Development. It truly saddens me that, instead of rapping about their life and struggles, it's now purely about money, sex and power.

Why and how did it all change?
The mainstream stuff is crap yeah. But I'd recommend:
Eminem - Not Afraid
Eminem - Beautiful
Eminem - Like Toy Soldiers
Eminem - Going Through Changes
Eminem - Say Goodbye To Hollywood
Eminem - Talking to Myself

And the list goes on. Now stop being ignorant, or a troll. Haven't decided which you are yet.

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The mainstream stuff is crap yeah. But I'd recommend:
Eminem - Not Afraid
Eminem - Beautiful
Eminem - Like Toy Soldiers
Eminem - Going Through Changes
Eminem - Say Goodbye To Hollywood
Eminem - Talking to Myself

And the list goes on. Now stop being ignorant, or a troll. Haven't decided which you are yet.

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Smh.
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(Original post by Andy98)
Eminem - Not Afraid
Eminem - Beautiful
Eminem - Like Toy Soldiers
Eminem - Going Through Changes
Eminem - Say Goodbye To Hollywood
Eminem - Talking to Myself
You might as well have just said 'Eminem'...

He's not the only rapper out there too, you know.
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Smh.
lolol

The mainstream is crap, try something underground, like Eminem.

Anyway, try:

El-P
Run The Jewels
Danny Brown
Oddisee
Elzhi
Cannibal Ox
The Roots

There is more but I am on my phone at the moment.
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lolol

The mainstream is crap, try something underground, like Eminem.

Anyway, try:

El-P
Run The Jewels
Danny Brown
Oddisee
Elzhi
Cannibal Ox
The Roots

There is more but I am on my phone at the moment.
Oddisee - Own Appeal is the closest I've come to modern Hip Hop. He's pretty sick I admit.

I just love me a good instrumental.
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Oddisee - Own Appeal is the closest I've come to modern Hip Hop. He's pretty sick I admit.

I just love me a good instrumental.
Have you heard his instrumental album? You will love that. It is called 'The Beauty in All'. Look up 'Afterthoughts' and 'Lonely Planet' on Youtube.

What about Dilla? Have you heard Donuts? And do you listen to any Black Milk?

Shabazz Palaces - Black Up

^ Was immense as well.
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So many good Hip Hop artists out there, you just have to look for them.

Saul Williams
B Dolan
Sage Francis
Aesop Rock
Scroobius Pip
Dan Le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip
El-P
Eyedea & Abilities
Busdriver
Buck 65
Alias
2Mex
Glue
Adeem
P.O.S
MC Lars
Riz MC
Sole
K Flay
Bliss N Eso
Grieves
Brother Ali
Briggs
WHY?
Odd Nosdam
Le Peuple de l'Herbe
Ubiquitous
Ces Cru
Mantra
Doomtree
Vents
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(Original post by VotreAltesse)
Smh.
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(Original post by Zyzzospirit)
You might as well have just said 'Eminem'...

He's not the only rapper out there too, you know.
I know, those were just the first handful of songs that popped in my head

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Voltre is shaking his/her head because you said the mainstream is crap but then recommended a load of mainstream stuff by the most mainstream rapper going.

Every man and his dog has heard those songs. And they aren't even his best ones.
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Voltre is shaking his/her head because you said the mainstream is crap but then recommended a load of mainstream stuff by the most mainstream rapper going.

Every man and his dog has heard those songs. And they aren't even his best ones.
They weren't that mainstream.... By mainstream I meant people like Kanye West, N-Dubz (when they were going), Tinie Tempah (although I don't mind him), Macklemore, etc...

I'll admit I haven't heard much from the real underground ones because I've never really looked or known where to look, however I detest the crap that fills the charts at the moment.
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They weren't that mainstream.... By mainstream I meant people like Kanye West, N-Dubz (when they were going), Tinie Tempah (although I don't mind him), Macklemore, etc...

I'll admit I haven't heard much from the real underground ones because I've never really looked or known where to look, however I detest the crap that fills the charts at the moment.
Most if not all of the tracks you posted charted, had music videos that were on telly and were made by the highest selling Hip Hop artist of all time. That is about as mainstream as you can get.
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Most if not all of the tracks you posted charted, had music videos that were on telly and were made by the highest selling Hip Hop artist of all time. That is about as mainstream as you can get.
I guess that's why those ones sprung to mind first then. But there is a lot of stuff by Eminem, B.o.B, Professor Green, and Yelawolf that hasn't charted that could be added to that list.
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If you'd really like to know what happened to hip hop, where it all went wrong, and why and how it all changed...then you should listen to a track called I Used To Love H.E.R by Common. It will explain everything.
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I'm just gonna copy + paste my post from the last "hip hop sucks now compared to the 80s/90s" thread, since they roll round every week or two.

Established artists are still putting out good records (ie. Common) and "new" artists releasing good stuff in just the last 18 months, even mentioning just mainstream artists off the top of my head, would include:

Kendrick Lamar
J Cole
Vince Staples
Big KRIT
A$ap Rocky
Run The Jewels
Travi$ Scott
Goldlink
Vic Mensa
Joey Bada$$
Action Bronson
Lupe Fiasco
Freddie Gibbs

And many more.
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(Original post by e aí rapaz)
I'm just gonna copy + paste my post from the last "hip hop sucks now compared to the 80s/90s" thread, since they roll round every week or two.

Established artists are still putting out good records (ie. Common) and "new" artists releasing good stuff in just the last 18 months, even mentioning just mainstream artists off the top of my head, would include:

Kendrick Lamar
J Cole
Vince Staples
Big KRIT
A$ap Rocky
Run The Jewels
Travi$ Scott
Goldlink
Vic Mensa
Joey Bada$$
Action Bronson
Lupe Fiasco
Freddie Gibbs

And many more.
Lol @ A$ap Rocky.
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Lol @ A$ap Rocky.
Have you listened to At.Long.Last.ASAP? It's one of the best albums of the year. But anyway if all you can pick off the list I gave you is one artist to lol at, then it's obviously a pretty good list.

At the end of the day if you're not into any modern hip hop, then you obviously just don't like it and will have to stick with the limited supply of old stuff. Just don't pretend it's because "rappers today only rap about money women and power" when that's clearly not true.
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