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Reply 200
bratcat
I have to take issue with you here. There are plenty of people who, throughout history have NOT said 'Life ain't fair, you better get used to it'. They've said, 'Life isn't fair and I'm going to do something about it' and those are the kind of people who change the world. Imagine if the Suffragettes had sat back, shrugged their shoulders and said 'Life ain't fair. We'd better get used to it!' Thank God they didn't or you wouldn't be in a position to apply to Oxbridge at all.


What did the suffragettes have to do with getting state school pupils into Oxbridge?
Helenia
What did the suffragettes have to do with getting state school pupils into Oxbridge?

It was an analogy.
Reply 202
bratcat
It was an analogy.

Certainly. But not a very good one. It was analogous to the idea of people having differing political ideas but... unless I'm wrong... I think everyone understands the concept.

I should say that the private/state school divide is more analogous to the debate about inheritance.
Reply 203
Acaila
Sounds a little more normal now, especially considering I'm sitting beside my school's residen crossdresser :rolleyes:

He didn't by any chance teach English did he? One of my English teacher's best friends was a transvestite. ( The same one that taught Fran if you recall me mentioning him. Fascinating chap. Had shoes with a compass in the heel in high school. He also had on file - he claims a pupil wrote it but we suspect he created it himself - the worst composition of all time ).
Faboba
Certainly. But not a very good one. It was analogous to the idea of people having differing political ideas but... unless I'm wrong... I think everyone understands the concept.

I should say that the private/state school divide is more analogous to the debate about inheritance.

To contextualize my comments, perhaps you should read the post to which I was responding in which Louise_1988 asserted, 'Life isn't fair. You better get used to it.'
Reply 205
bratcat
To contextualize my comments, perhaps you should read the post to which I was responding in which Louise_1988 asserted, 'Life isn't fair. You better get used to it.'

Which was such a cliché it hardly deserved a response.
Reply 206
Faboba
He didn't by any chance teach English did he? One of my English teacher's best friends was a transvestite. ( The same one that taught Fran if you recall me mentioning him. Fascinating chap. Had shoes with a compass in the heel in high school. He also had on file - he claims a pupil wrote it but we suspect he created it himself - the worst composition of all time ).


Nah this was just a pupil. One of my group actually. Considers himself vaguely bisexual, but doesn't do things like that for such reasons, just for the amusement of those around him. Hence the reason we have a picture of him lying on a friend's bed in said friend's sister's underwear. Ewww the memories.
Reply 207
Acaila
Nah this was just a pupil. One of my group actually. Considers himself vaguely bisexual, but doesn't do things like that for such reasons, just for the amusement of those around him. Hence the reason we have a picture of him lying on a friend's bed in said friend's sister's underwear. Ewww the memories.

:rolleyes: Fifth years.
Reply 208
Oi! I'll be a sixth year in nineteen days :tongue:.
Faboba
Which was such a cliché it hardly deserved a response.


Oh,really? Well, I came to a very different conclusion: it was precisely the fact that it was a cliché, because we passively accept it - this 'banal truism' form the moment we are born - that I felt it was 'worthy of a response 'Life isn't fair' the final part of the sentence is inculcated into us from the moment we entered primary school. The final part of the sentence 'so you better get used to ' is left unsaid.



I was surprised to find such depressing views (puts patronising mask on) coming from one so young, a comment that I would have expected from a curmudgeonly primary school mistress.



And, if we sit back and do nothing (In this situation) what will happen then?


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Reply 210
bratcat
And, if we sit back and do nothing (In this situation) what will happen then?


Life will go on?
Reply 211
bratcat
I have to take issue with you here. There are plenty of people who, throughout history have NOT said 'Life ain't fair, you better get used to it'. They've said, 'Life isn't fair and I'm going to do something about it' and those are the kind of people who change the world. Imagine if the Suffragettes had sat back, shrugged their shoulders and said 'Life ain't fair. We'd better get used to it!' Thank God they didn't or you wouldn't be in a position to apply to Oxbridge at all.


Fine words. However, can you describe what can be done about to alter the situation whereby your chances of admission to Oxbridge is affected by your social background? I don't see an obvious answer. In my view, Oxbridge are making best of a tough situation by doing their utmost to admit the very best candidates they can. I don't think there's any more they can do; there's little doubt in my mind that the crux of the problem is the low quality of many of the nation's schools.
Reply 212
bratcat
Oh,really? Well, I came to a very different conclusion: it was precisely the fact that it was a cliché, because we passively accept it - this 'banal truism' form the moment we are born - that I felt it was 'worthy of a response 'Life isn't fair' the final part of the sentence is inculcated into us from the moment we entered primary school. The final part of the sentence 'so you better get used to ' is left unsaid.

It can't be a truism in the strictest sense; truisms are true. It can't be a falsism either ( it is a word, I assure you ) as it isn't false. How can we judge that the world is or is not fair without any kind of criteria for what constitutes fair?

The original cliché was as pointless as if it had been "the world does not meet the criteria for fairness which the world does not meet, get used to it!" ( which, incidently, is a truism.

Most clichés are utterly pointless, it's part of their charm.
Reply 213
You really are destined to be a philosopher! :eek:
Reply 214
I think he's got the gene :biggrin:
Reply 215
He is The One!!!

{cough}

Sorry, been doing The Matrix, well err...matrices in maths. I'm going a little more crazy :biggrin:
Reply 216
Matrices ... lovely :biggrin:
Reply 217
Seem easy enough so far. Just needing to watch my arithmetic as usual (I'm allergic to signs it seems :rolleyes: ). I think I like my new subjects (although in geography we had to count the number of squares on a big OS map that had trees in them. For no apparent reason :rolleyes: ).
Reply 218
Have you got a syllabus? Are you going to do anything interesting with your matrices or is it boring old number crunching?
Reply 219
Not sure really. I would check for you but my textbook is waaaay downstairs. Got my computing books today too. Got handed the course book, some paper stuff and a book on Visual Basic and was told "See you at Xmas" :biggrin:. I'm going to make a computer game for my project! :smile:

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