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    Oh and i have dropped Computing and just doing A-level Further maths and A2 Physics this year.
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    Hello, allow to ask following questions. I am the student from Russia and I wish to submit the application to Oxford on English and Literature. Tell please, something about receipt to Oxford from the point of view of the foreigner... I Knowall about fuss with submission of documents, but I am excited with household questions! What attitude at a selection committee to "persons" like me? What attitude in Oxford to foreigners and whether is a lot of them there. All interests connected with training and receipt NOT Englishmen and Europeans.. In advance, I am sorry for such quantity of silly questions.

    Thanks.
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    Hello, allow to ask following questions. I am the student from Russia and I wish to submit the application to Oxford on English and Literature. Tell please, something about receipt to Oxford from the point of view of the foreigner... I Knowall about fuss with submission of documents, but I am excited with household questions! What attitude at a selection committee to "persons" like me? What attitude in Oxford to foreigners and whether is a lot of them there. All interests connected with training and receipt NOT Englishmen and Europeans.. In advance, I am sorry for such quantity of silly questions.

    Thanks.
    Sorry, what exactly is your question?
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    (Original post by First)
    Hello, allow to ask following questions. I am the student from Russia and I wish to submit the application to Oxford on English and Literature. Tell please, something about receipt to Oxford from the point of view of the foreigner... I Knowall about fuss with submission of documents, but I am excited with household questions! What attitude at a selection committee to "persons" like me? What attitude in Oxford to foreigners and whether is a lot of them there. All interests connected with training and receipt NOT Englishmen and Europeans.. In advance, I am sorry for such quantity of silly questions.

    Thanks.

    I don't think you're English is really good enough to study english lit. at oxford with.
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    (Original post by First)
    Hello, allow to ask following questions. I am the student from Russia and I wish to submit the application to Oxford on English and Literature. Tell please, something about receipt to Oxford from the point of view of the foreigner... I Knowall about fuss with submission of documents, but I am excited with household questions! What attitude at a selection committee to "persons" like me? What attitude in Oxford to foreigners and whether is a lot of them there. All interests connected with training and receipt NOT Englishmen and Europeans.. In advance, I am sorry for such quantity of silly questions.

    Thanks.
    As far as I know the Oxford admission process is not in any way biased against foreigners, Russians or otherwise. About 10% of Oxfordians are not from the U.K.

    I don't understand "All interests connected with training and receipt NOT Englishmen and Europeans.."?

    But your English does not seem very good, are you sure you want to study English Literature?
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    (Original post by E_D_B)
    I don't think you're English is really good enough to study english lit. at oxford with.

    Irony, yes?
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    Irony, yes?
    Of course. It's always ironical.:p:

    Although, to be fair, that was a single mistake (not to mention a fairly common one), as opposed to an entire paragraph that's barely intelligible because of its garbled grammar and odd use of vocabulary...
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    Damn.

    I'm not applying for lit though.
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    Sorry, probably have been asked hundreds of times...

    But can someone explain pooling to me?

    Is it just 'Oh we like you, but not as much as the other applicants, so we will let all the other colleges know you are a good student and see if they take you, if not, tough luck.' ?

    Is it a bad thing to be pooled?
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    (Original post by pinkpenguin)
    Sorry, probably have been asked hundreds of times...

    But can someone explain pooling to me?

    Is it just 'Oh we like you, but not as much as the other applicants, so we will let all the other colleges know you are a good student and see if they take you, if not, tough luck.' ?

    Is it a bad thing to be pooled?
    Are you talking about Oxford "pooling" or Cambridge pooling?
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    Didnt realise there was a difference...
    Im kinda in the early stages of research right now, so any help would be great!
    I also need to decide which one to apply for.
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    (Original post by pinkpenguin)
    Didnt realise there was a difference...
    Im kinda in the early stages of research right now, so any help would be great!
    I also need to decide which one to apply for.
    In a nutshell, "pooling" at Oxford just means the possibility of getting into a college you didn't originally apply for (but you won't be called for extra interviews or anything - basically it's all sorted out for you and you don't really notice it). At Cambridge it's a separate part of the application process, though, and means an initial rejection by your original college, with something like a 20% chance of being accepted by another one. I wouldn't say being pooled is necessarily a bad sign per se - you could just have applied to a heavily oversubscribed college - though I suppose being pooled at Cambridge can be a bit nervewrecking because it gets people's hopes up a second time, but most of them will end up being rejected nevertheless. Although I've got no first-hand experience of it, so I wouldn't really know.:dontknow:

    Here's some information on how the Cambridge pooling system works: link.
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    (Original post by hobnob)
    In a nutshell, "pooling" at Oxford just means the possibility of getting into a college you didn't originally apply for (but you won't be called for extra interviews or anything - basically it's all sorted out for you and you don't really notice it). At Cambridge it's a separate part of the application process, though, and means an initial rejection by your original college, with something like a 20% chance of being accepted by another one. I wouldn't say being pooled is necessarily a bad sign per se - you could just have applied to a heavily oversubscribed college - though I suppose being pooled at Cambridge can be a bit nervewrecking because it gets people's hopes up a second time, but most of them will end up being rejected nevertheless. Although I've got no first-hand experience of it, so I wouldn't really know.:dontknow:

    Here's some information on how the Cambridge pooling system works: link.
    Thanks a lot thats cleared things up!
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    Basically, Oxford's admissions process relies far more heavily on pooling than Cambridge's. Whilst the Oxford admission process is rather slick, Cambridge's is still relatively mediaeval; people have to wait weeks to find out their results, and sometimes even have to return a month or so after their first interview for another one, if they're 'pooled' elsewhere.

    Obviously being pooled is better than a straight rejection, but it must be a fairly horrific experience, especially if you're turned down having been filled with a second pang of hope. The ideal solution is that, if you apply to Cambridge, you think long and hard about the college you pick. Whilst at Cambridge one's choice of college is fairly open (at Oxford most colleges have prohibited subjects), the pooling system makes college selection crucial, particularly with the sciences, where college reputation fluctuates.
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    How can an admissions process be medieval when there were no admission processes in the Middle Ages?:confused:
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    (Original post by H&E)
    Is there any point in me applying?
    Almost definitely yes! If you're predicted or already have AAA/AAB at A-level, you have a chance no matter your previous record. Every year people get in with supposedly 'useless' grades.

    Are my grades good enough?
    If you've come near the top of your school at GCSE/AS/A2, your grades are good enough for Oxbridge.
    I'm confused. This implies that your grades have to be amazing across the board for Oxbridge, but your GCSEs don't really count if your AS/A2 grades are really good ...? Is this the case?
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    (Original post by hobnob)
    How can an admissions process be medieval when there were no admission processes in the Middle Ages?:confused:
    Archaic, perhaps?
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    Archaic, perhaps?
    That still wouldn't really work, though, since the application process as it currently is hasn't actually been around for that long.
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    I want to apply for Philosophy and Theology at Oxford this year but I'm worried that I'm already disadvantaged, because my GCSEs aren't great and because I only did 3 A levels (I go to a private school and almost everyone else I know who applied to Oxbridge from private schools did 4).

    My question is: are your GCSEs and other factors such as number of A Levels only relevant in getting to the interview stage? I read on another thread that once you get to the interview stage that everyone's basically considered to be on a level playing field; is this true or will I have to do better in my interview than someone with excellent GCSEs and loads of A Levels would have to do to get in?
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    (Original post by missygeorgia)
    My question is: are your GCSEs and other factors such as number of A Levels only relevant in getting to the interview stage? I read on another thread that once you get to the interview stage that everyone's basically considered to be on a level playing field; is this true or will I have to do better in my interview than someone with excellent GCSEs and loads of A Levels would have to do to get in?
    Oxford, from what I have gathered, take a whole range of factors into account in the selection process: past academic results (GCSEs/AS levels), personal statement, teacher reference, admissions test (where relevant), predicted results (unless you're applying post-A level) and the interview/s. There's no real straightforward way of determining which of these factors, if any, will be most important in securing a place, as it appears to vary from candidate to candidate, tutor to tuor.

    I think it is fair enough, however, to say that if your previous results aren't fantastic then you will need to demonstrate your potential through the remaining options left open for you to influence. Someone who already has fantastic results has already, to some extent, demonstrated their academic strengths. But you won't do yourself any good by trying to work out how well you need to do in order to 'beat' other people. All you can attempt to do in your personal statement/admissions test/interview is show them the best that you can be. Whether that is or is not good enough is out of your hands, so don't try to change it.
 
 
 
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