Is it time for ID cards??

Would ID cards have prevented dishonest employers giving illegal migrants jobs, does it prevent illegal migrants buying food, does it cost of lot of money to implemented and inconvenience and potentially criminalize law abiding people?

All these things happen right now in countries that have ID cards, what makes you think it makes any difference in the UK.

But why are you so afraid of them?

Would ID cards have prevented dishonest employers giving illegal migrants jobs, does it prevent illegal migrants buying food, does it cost of lot of money to implemented and inconvenience and potentially criminalize law abiding people?

Why don't you have video cameras in your house linked to your nearest police station? Surely, a law abiding person like you have nothing to hide from the police.

ID would actually prevent many dishonest employers giving illegal immigrants jobs. They could be prosecuted, e.g. like the new laws against landlords who have illegal alien tenants, mentioned on the news this morning.

As for preventing illegal immigrants buying food???? Why would you want to deny a human being in this country access to buying food?? That's unchristian. Get real, why would a shopkeeper demand ID for someone buying food??

"potentially criminalize law abiding people?" Cripes almighty! This left-wing rhetoric doesn't do anything for me. If you love Britain and are not a criminal then no worries man. Anyone can be stopped by police and have their ID checked if there are grounds. That's fine, I don't mind at all. Let the police do their job. The law of the land is for everyone.

You talk about the cost in a short term way and make no mention of the vast sums that will be saved. How about all the money being lost now because of the criminal at Calais? If extra cost means a more safe and secure Britain against terrorism and destabilisation from within then I have no problem with ID cards. Also, if it means a stop to the crowds in Calais who are trying to break their way illegally into GB on a daily basis, then bring on the ID cards. I have always thought the arguments for not having ID cards are far outweighed by the reasons for having them.

Please stay on the subject and try not to get silly.

Why is it silly for the police to have cameras in your home, what have you got to hide? Cameras linked to the police are helpful if your home was broken into or you are murdered by illegal migrants. You should welcome the police attention.

You seemed have shyed away addressing the privacy issue? Why?

The rest of your argument is rubbish. People in Calais are so desperate they risk getting killed to get to Britain. do you think ID cards will be any deterrent?

A lot of illegals already have friends and relatives and people from the same town or village in the UK who are under strong social pressure and family obligation to give them jobs and help them stay in the country. These people would not be deterred by fines or even the faint risk of prison.

ID cards would not have prevented the bombings in London 10 years ago, the vile murder of Lee Rigby or idiots going to Syria to join ISIS. All thes criminals were legally in this country.

many countries have ID cards, some of them are liberal..

when I first came to the UK (1981) I was shocked to find that a credit card was accepted as a form of ID!

It still is! (2015)

in most countries in the world if you were asked for ID and you were to show a credit card, they would have laughed at you ...

eh? How do think it works in Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Holland, Belgium . . . .? Do you think their lives are compromised due to your perceived 'privacy issues'? Get real. This is important!



If you say so then Have you not been reading my posts to you because I made it very clear that I think ID cards WILL be a deterrent. It's the primary reason they choose Britain, it seems, over other countries. Without ID cards they can fly under the radar.



Not really. ID cards are exactly what illegals and their sympathisers don't want because it will obviously make it more difficult.



You don't know that for sure but the strong reasons for ID cards have already been put forward by myself. If you won't acknowledge that then we are standing on opposite sides of an unbreachable ravine.

I'm not against the idea. It would simplify confirming a person's identity for a whole range of issues. No more hassles applying for a passport or a driver's license, easy for employers and landlords to confirm who you are and that you have right to remain or be employed.

However I'd hate for it to made compulsory to carry it at all times. Also with the costs involved in introducing it, is it all really worth it?

please do not patronize me.