Feminism and Meninism

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Is Meninism a mockery of feminism or does it actually mean something?
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it's a mockery term for mens rights from feminists who resent the idea of men having rights
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feminism is bull****
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feminism is bull****
Please explain why?
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It's a mockery and for idiots that do not realise real feminism fights for both men and women.
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feminism is bull****
Anyone who believes that, doesn't know what feminism really is. :/
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Not many people identify as a 'meninist'
from what i've seen, it's mostly used as an insult to any men's rights activist.
Honestly though, I see no issue with anyone who chooses to identify as such, it's not like feminism has a monopoly over the fight for anyone's equality, and choosing not to label yourself as a feminist shouldn't com with that much scorn
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Yes feminism should support both men and women. Some people just take to extreme levels regarding gender inequality...
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I thought the term was mockery for a male feminist whose not really a feminist but still parrots their dogma from the position of a sycophant.

Some MRAs come across as really butt-hurt individuals and it's difficult to say which one of these two kinds of men I dislike the most. Lol.

lol
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Please explain why?
White feminists ignore and hate non white feminists and care all about themselves and other whites.
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Anyone who believes that, doesn't know what feminism really is. :/
Feminism is flawed
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Meninism and MRA aren't really substantial movements. It seems to me like a considerable number of people support some aspects of their message and reject others, but few accept it wholeheartedly.

Ironically, that means it is very similar to modern feminism. People just accept the reasonable bits, and jettison the 'rape culture' anti-colonial white guilt element. In the same way, people accept the reasonable things that so-called 'Meninists' say, but reject the idea that a secretive female cabal is systematically crushing the life out the male gender.
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It's a mockery and for idiots that do not realise real feminism fights for both men and women.

No, you're thinking of egalitarianism.
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Feminism is flawed
Give me one flawless worldview or philosophy. You won't be able to. They're all flawed, the debate surrounds which ones are most flawed and that of course depends on your outlook. Feminism is an umbrella term anyway; to assess the flaws effectively you have to sub-categorise feminist theories which can have major differences.
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It's a mockery and for idiots that do not realise real feminism fights for both men and women.
"real feminism" died a long time ago though
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Anyone who believes that, doesn't know what feminism really is. :/
what type of "feminism" are you talking about? liberal feminism? radical feminism? difference feminism? androgynous feminism? separatist feminism? not all of these "feminisms" are in favour of equality in a strict sense, e.g. from the law
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what type of "feminism" are you talking about? liberal feminism? radical feminism? difference feminism? androgynous feminism? separatist feminism? not all of these "feminisms" are in favour of equality in a strict sense, e.g. from the law
It's a pretty simple idea. Equal pay, equal rights, equal respect. Who cares about different types of feminism, that's irrelevant to this. Feminism in general is the belief that women deserve equal rights to men, why not support that?
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Feminism is flawed
Your argument is flawed.
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It's a pretty simple idea. Equal pay, equal rights, equal respect. Who cares about different types of feminism, that's irrelevant to this. Feminism in general is the belief that women deserve equal rights to men, why not support that?
because "feminists" today are total hypocrites so the meaning of feminism has accordingly adjusted in light of this. they don't campaign for equality. they don't campaign for both men's issues and women's issues. they want positive discrimination. therefore, they don't want strict equality, they want shameless gynocentricism and women's rights at the expense of men's
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Give me one flawless worldview or philosophy. You won't be able to. They're all flawed, the debate surrounds which ones are most flawed and that of course depends on your outlook. Feminism is an umbrella term anyway; to assess the flaws effectively you have to sub-categorise feminist theories which can have major differences.
i just don't understand it. it's the belief that men and women are equal, even though men are superior in nearly every way both physically and mentally.
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