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KCL full or UCL Rejects?
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I read somewhere that people, generally at KCL, are rejects from UCL 
whats KCL's students take on that? i typed in something on Google and it said "did you mean UCL" lol which literally made me laugh lol
whats KCL's students take on that? i typed in something on Google and it said "did you mean UCL" lol which literally made me laugh lolScroll to see replies
Reply 1
No to both your questions... I applied to Cambridge, Bath, York, Manchester, Durham and KCL... Turned down Bath and York (interview at Cambridge, no offer), came down to Manchester and KCL... and I just decided I'd prefer to be in London. 
Kings, being in London is a very mixed university... there's no real majority of any particular race or colour. Cliques also don't really tend to exist so much as they might do back at school.
Kings, being in London is a very mixed university... there's no real majority of any particular race or colour. Cliques also don't really tend to exist so much as they might do back at school.
Reply 2
Hi, I went to KCL as a postgraduate, I never considered UCL, though it looks like a fantastic university. I did meet someone who had applied to both but the schools are so similar that I can't imagine why one wouldn't be happy with either (though I've heard KCL gives slightly lower offers at an undergraduate level [eg. AAB vs. AAA] to give applicants an extra chance if they weren't well represented by their grades). Until I looked at league tables, after I'd started school, I wouldn't have really thought to try to compare them (though I was aware of the rivalry)...
Hope that helps--
Hope that helps--
Reply 3
I applied for law at KCL and not UCL after I went to the open day.
UCL IMO didnt have what I wanted and was spread too much for me.
I know kcl is spread but for law it wasnt as bad.
I think it's all about personal preference, this rumour is similar to the Durham/Bristol=Oxbridge rejects....
If you like a uni on face value dont worry about people's opinions of it.
UCL IMO didnt have what I wanted and was spread too much for me.
I know kcl is spread but for law it wasnt as bad.
I think it's all about personal preference, this rumour is similar to the Durham/Bristol=Oxbridge rejects....
If you like a uni on face value dont worry about people's opinions of it.
Reply 4
Sasuke!
OP
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oh so i guess tis fair to say that UCL and KCL are literally similar in most senses, and therefore almost equal rivals?
Reply 5
I dont see them as being that different, but it depends on the course I suppose.
They have the same advantages and disadvantages and are often grouped together in the "bracket" below oxbridge.
They have the same advantages and disadvantages and are often grouped together in the "bracket" below oxbridge.
Reply 6
Sasuke!
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where would you group LSE?
Reply 7
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Whatever is wrong with Oxbridge rejects anyway?
I can't think of a more intelligent person who got rejected from Camb (physics), and ended up getting a 1st at UCL (MSc) onto Cranfield (PhD) then NASA, being the most intelligent person I have ever come accross.
Cambridge's loss. UCL's gain. Some people just don't apply to Oxbridge (like me), and apply for KCL, QMUL, Reading etc. I'm not a reject lol, and I just didn't think to apply there (mainly because the guy who got rejected was so intelligent, that him being rejected put me off no end).
Hail the so called 'rejects' I say
What the hell does it matter? Its a good school, end of. Your focus on league placings is not healthy. What do you want to achieve by asking that type of question? I really don't understand some of your posts.
I can't think of a more intelligent person who got rejected from Camb (physics), and ended up getting a 1st at UCL (MSc) onto Cranfield (PhD) then NASA, being the most intelligent person I have ever come accross.
Cambridge's loss. UCL's gain. Some people just don't apply to Oxbridge (like me), and apply for KCL, QMUL, Reading etc. I'm not a reject lol, and I just didn't think to apply there (mainly because the guy who got rejected was so intelligent, that him being rejected put me off no end).
Hail the so called 'rejects' I say
Death Eater
where would you group LSE?
What the hell does it matter? Its a good school, end of. Your focus on league placings is not healthy. What do you want to achieve by asking that type of question? I really don't understand some of your posts.
Reply 8
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I'm not a UCL reject; I got a higher offer from King's than I did from UCL. So I turned UCL down.
Reply 9
A lot of law students here at KCL (like me) had not applied to UCL, a few had turned down UCL for KCL because they preferred the friendlier atmosphere at KCL, and then there are a few who are UCL rejects. So there is a right mixture!
As for the Google thing, that is because UCL is known as UCL...you rarely hear people calling UCL University College London. Whereas KCL is very rarely called KCL...its always referred to as King's.
I would say for law LSE are either on par with Oxbridge, or in the intermediate level inbetween Oxbridge and UCL/KCL. Me and many others at KCL are LSE rejects
As for the Google thing, that is because UCL is known as UCL...you rarely hear people calling UCL University College London. Whereas KCL is very rarely called KCL...its always referred to as King's.
I would say for law LSE are either on par with Oxbridge, or in the intermediate level inbetween Oxbridge and UCL/KCL. Me and many others at KCL are LSE rejects
Reply 10
Death Eater
oh so i guess tis fair to say that UCL and KCL are literally similar in most senses, and therefore almost equal rivals?
Both unis are only superficially similar.
Looked closely, they're very different:
UCL is one of the G5 in the UK, whereas King's isn't.
UCL sometimes (in 2005/06, for example) topped both Cam and Ox in terms of research funding from HEFCE, whereas King's lags far behind.
UCL is among the world's top 25 unis, whereas King's is somewhere between top 75 and 85.
UCL has the Slade School of Fine Art, the Bartlett School of Architecture, the Institutie of Archaeology, which are the best in the UK in their respective fields. But King's doesn't have any of the subjects.
Last but not least, UCL is located in Bloomsbury, the intellectual and cultural centre of London, with the British Library, the British Museum, and the Senate House Lib, etc. being within 5-min walk.
Reply 11
pharmakos
Both unis are only superficially similar.
Looked closely, they're very different:
UCL is one of the G5 in the UK, whereas King's isn't.
UCL sometimes (in 2005/06, for example) topped both Cam and Ox in terms of research funding from HEFCE, whereas King's lags far behind.
UCL is among the world's top 25 unis, whereas King's is somewhere between top 75 and 85.
UCL has the Slade School of Fine Art, the Bartlett School of Architecture, the Institutie of Archaeology, which are the best in the UK in their respective fields. But King's doesn't have any of the subjects.
Last but not least, UCL is located in Bloomsbury, the intellectual and cultural centre of London, with the British Library, the British Museum, and the Senate House Lib, etc. being within 5-min walk.
Looked closely, they're very different:
UCL is one of the G5 in the UK, whereas King's isn't.
UCL sometimes (in 2005/06, for example) topped both Cam and Ox in terms of research funding from HEFCE, whereas King's lags far behind.
UCL is among the world's top 25 unis, whereas King's is somewhere between top 75 and 85.
UCL has the Slade School of Fine Art, the Bartlett School of Architecture, the Institutie of Archaeology, which are the best in the UK in their respective fields. But King's doesn't have any of the subjects.
Last but not least, UCL is located in Bloomsbury, the intellectual and cultural centre of London, with the British Library, the British Museum, and the Senate House Lib, etc. being within 5-min walk.
Insecure. How insecureReply 12
I'm assuming ur from UCL...how sad are you to go into its rival uni's forum and start ditching them....it makes me wonder why so many people chose KCL over UCL...lol....i agree ^^ very insecure indeed lol. what a loser!
P.S KCL is 46th in the world table get ur facts right
P.S KCL is 46th in the world table
get ur facts rightReply 13
pharmakos
Both unis are only superficially similar.
Looked closely, they're very different:
UCL is one of the G5 in the UK, whereas King's isn't.
UCL sometimes (in 2005/06, for example) topped both Cam and Ox in terms of research funding from HEFCE, whereas King's lags far behind.
UCL is among the world's top 25 unis, whereas King's is somewhere between top 75 and 85.
UCL has the Slade School of Fine Art, the Bartlett School of Architecture, the Institutie of Archaeology, which are the best in the UK in their respective fields. But King's doesn't have any of the subjects.
Last but not least, UCL is located in Bloomsbury, the intellectual and cultural centre of London, with the British Library, the British Museum, and the Senate House Lib, etc. being within 5-min walk.
Looked closely, they're very different:
UCL is one of the G5 in the UK, whereas King's isn't.
UCL sometimes (in 2005/06, for example) topped both Cam and Ox in terms of research funding from HEFCE, whereas King's lags far behind.
UCL is among the world's top 25 unis, whereas King's is somewhere between top 75 and 85.
UCL has the Slade School of Fine Art, the Bartlett School of Architecture, the Institutie of Archaeology, which are the best in the UK in their respective fields. But King's doesn't have any of the subjects.
Last but not least, UCL is located in Bloomsbury, the intellectual and cultural centre of London, with the British Library, the British Museum, and the Senate House Lib, etc. being within 5-min walk.
Someone went to UCL...
It's pretty dumb to assume that people who are in Kings are automatically UCL rejects. People apply to university for a variety of reasons; some people may prefer the course content of a particular subject in King's rather than UCL (and vice versa), I'm sure there are subjects available at King's that aren't at UCL (and vice versa) and some people may just prefer King's to UCL (and of course vice versa.) For most people university rankings are only a small consideration, there are other more imortant things to consider. Besides before I joined TSR I would have probably classed UCL and Kings as being on vaguely the same level they're both multifaculty universities in London, generally well respected and usually in the top 10-15 of university league tables, now I realise how wrong I was
. And as for me, I applied to both to consider me as someone in the middle. I'm leaning more toward King's though, because I prefer the subjects I'd be doing there (French and English KCL Vs French and Russian UCL.)
Reply 14
i would KILL for a place at KCL. UCL turned me down, but if i'd recieved offers from both i would have considered them equally... and in some senses, i think king's actually appeals to me more than UCL did anyway.
Reply 15
Well, I'm not saying that King's isn't a good uni. King's is good: its Institute of Psychiatry is well-known world wide; it has great depts such as English, French, law, American Studies, War Studies, etc.
You can argue how superficially similar UCL and King's are, but you can't change the fact that, academic-wise and location-wise, UCL is better than King's. As The Sunday Times 2005 University Guide describes: "UCL is physically and academically at the centre of the University of London."
I'm not saying, though, that one should pick UCL over King's. It's subject to individual preferences. After all, some like it hot, some don't.
You can argue how superficially similar UCL and King's are, but you can't change the fact that, academic-wise and location-wise, UCL is better than King's. As The Sunday Times 2005 University Guide describes: "UCL is physically and academically at the centre of the University of London."
I'm not saying, though, that one should pick UCL over King's. It's subject to individual preferences. After all, some like it hot, some don't.
Reply 16
Dude, it's a 15 minute walk 
Interesting enough though, Charing Cross is generally considered the centre of London (it is where distances to London are measured, e.g. when you're travelling from another town or city).
It really doesn't matter!
Well, I'm not saying that King's isn't a good uni. King's is good: its Institute of Psychiatry is well-known world wide; it has great depts such as English, French, law, American Studies, War Studies, etc.
Meh, dentistry and modern foreign languages should probably be added to that list too, but most league tables are incredibly subjective, and should only be used as a guideline, rather than the be-all and end-all of one's university choices.
Interesting enough though, Charing Cross is generally considered the centre of London (it is where distances to London are measured, e.g. when you're travelling from another town or city).
It really doesn't matter!
Well, I'm not saying that King's isn't a good uni. King's is good: its Institute of Psychiatry is well-known world wide; it has great depts such as English, French, law, American Studies, War Studies, etc.
Meh, dentistry and modern foreign languages should probably be added to that list too, but most league tables are incredibly subjective, and should only be used as a guideline, rather than the be-all and end-all of one's university choices.
Reply 17
pharmakos
Well, I'm not saying that King's isn't a good uni. King's is good: its Institute of Psychiatry is well-known world wide; it has great depts such as English, French, law, American Studies, War Studies, etc.
You can argue how superficially similar UCL and King's are, but you can't change the fact that, academic-wise and location-wise, UCL is better than King's. As The Sunday Times 2005 University Guide describes: "UCL is physically and academically at the centre of the University of London."
I'm not saying, though, that one should pick UCL over King's. It's subject to individual preferences. After all, some like it hot, some don't.
You can argue how superficially similar UCL and King's are, but you can't change the fact that, academic-wise and location-wise, UCL is better than King's. As The Sunday Times 2005 University Guide describes: "UCL is physically and academically at the centre of the University of London."
I'm not saying, though, that one should pick UCL over King's. It's subject to individual preferences. After all, some like it hot, some don't.
Academically you're probably right, UCL has the edge over King's at the moment. Yet as someone else said, league tables are very subjunctive, and let's not forget- they change every year so they are still an unreliable measure of how good a university actually is. And King's location is better imo, it's even more central than UCL, slap bang in the strand. But those are just quibbles. I really like both universities, and if they both offered the same course I'm not really sure which one I'd go for, I really liked them both last year when I went to their open days. UCL does have nicer buildings
.Reply 18
pharmakos
Both unis are only superficially similar.
Looked closely, they're very different:
UCL is one of the G5 in the UK, whereas King's isn't.
UCL sometimes (in 2005/06, for example) topped both Cam and Ox in terms of research funding from HEFCE, whereas King's lags far behind.
UCL is among the world's top 25 unis, whereas King's is somewhere between top 75 and 85.
UCL has the Slade School of Fine Art, the Bartlett School of Architecture, the Institutie of Archaeology, which are the best in the UK in their respective fields. But King's doesn't have any of the subjects.
Last but not least, UCL is located in Bloomsbury, the intellectual and cultural centre of London, with the British Library, the British Museum, and the Senate House Lib, etc. being within 5-min walk.
Looked closely, they're very different:
UCL is one of the G5 in the UK, whereas King's isn't.
UCL sometimes (in 2005/06, for example) topped both Cam and Ox in terms of research funding from HEFCE, whereas King's lags far behind.
UCL is among the world's top 25 unis, whereas King's is somewhere between top 75 and 85.
UCL has the Slade School of Fine Art, the Bartlett School of Architecture, the Institutie of Archaeology, which are the best in the UK in their respective fields. But King's doesn't have any of the subjects.
Last but not least, UCL is located in Bloomsbury, the intellectual and cultural centre of London, with the British Library, the British Museum, and the Senate House Lib, etc. being within 5-min walk.
Shhh...
The KCL students might hear you.
Reply 19
dazmanultra
Dude, it's a 15 minute walk
Interesting enough though, Charing Cross is generally considered the centre of London (it is where distances to London are measured, e.g. when you're travelling from another town or city).
It really doesn't matter!
Interesting enough though, Charing Cross is generally considered the centre of London (it is where distances to London are measured, e.g. when you're travelling from another town or city).
It really doesn't matter!
Dude, read my posts carefully. I'm saying Bloomsbury, where UCL is located, is the intellectual and cultural centre of London: the British Lib, the British Museum, the School of Advanced Study (U of London), the Senate House Lib, SOAS, Institute of Education (U of London), Birkbeck, etc. are all within 5-min walk. One won't be able to find such an intellctually exuberant area in any other major cities in the world.
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